I just joined this site today and after reading all the comments, I am so glad it's not just my son with these issues. He has always been very argumentative, especially when he doesn't get his way, will be very persistent until you do give in, and disrupts the entire family. We too have tried grounding, taking things away and nothing works. He is suppose to wear a Ritalin patch, which he does only 1/2 the time. He sees a child psychologist, but when we go he tells me before we go in, "mom, don't start crying and say much....I just want to get out of there". I feel bad for him because I feel like we are bashing him the whole dr. visit, but I need help with him. I need help on a daily basis on how to deal with his persistence, how to divert him, and basically how to parent him without making him feel like a worthless human being. He has an older brother who is 19 with no issues, and if I have heard it once, I've heard it a thousand times, " you don't treat ______ that way" or when he gets in trouble for something he says "_____ does the same thing and he doesn't get into trouble" (which is not true). In every situation when he gets caught in something it is never his fault, always someone else. Are there any good books I can read to help me understand.