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Advice - should we call the cops and report an assault at school?
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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 427603" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>We have an author here in Australia, Tara Moss, who was interviewed on TV about her new book. She felt she needed to write form personal knowledge and so she hired a bloke to literally choke her unconscious, so she could really know how to write about it. I also am a writer and frankly think there are lengths to which it is ridiculous to go, but hey, it's her choice. And talking about it sells more books for her.</p><p></p><p>The thing is - people's response to her and this approach to research was interesting. Most people were shocked, some though, "Wow, what dedication to research," but I think most thought, "Wow - what a risk to take with your own life, and the brain you need to use to pursue your craft."</p><p></p><p>My point - this act is a big deal. Asphyxia is a big deal. When Tara Moss was choked unconscious, it was done by an experienced person who was acting calmly, rationally and not in a fit of anger. She felt safer because the person knew what they were doing, she said, and was aware of exactly how to apply just the right amount of force.</p><p></p><p>But in this situation, a kid lashed out and choked another kid. No experience, no calculated "I can apply this force for this number of seconds then I let go," it as "I want to choke the living daylights out of him and I don't care."</p><p></p><p>One is a controlled situation; one is definitely not. Both are risky, but the risks are greater, with the least amount of controls.</p><p></p><p>And for any school staff to be so relaxed about this, I am horrified. The only possible excuse I can see, is because this was an after-school event and it happened away from the main action, so possibly in the teachers' minds, tis was not a matter of school jurisdiction. But it still comes back to concerns for teacher response for difficult child 2's safety when he IS back in a school situation and this other kid is present. And also to their basic human compassion (or lack thereof) in not calling an ambulance for a kid who has been choked unconscious. Surely they are not really so lacking in compassion? </p><p></p><p>In which case - at some level, they DO feel a sense of "Oops, we dropped the ball on this one; now how can we salvage our jobs out of this?"</p><p></p><p>What do other parents think about this incident? It could have been their kid.</p><p></p><p>Then again - there is sometimes the attitude of "It happened to a difficult child, and we all know they're a bit weird and often can't be believed, trusted or valued."</p><p></p><p>The more I think about this, the angrier I am getting. Officialdom needs to be informed at some level, but whether it needs to be the police - I don't think the police involvement alone would get the necessary result. But on matters of keeping children safe at school - maybe there, the police might have something to say. Or CPS? Certainly the education authorities should be in a position to respond and help clean up this mess.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 427603, member: 1991"] We have an author here in Australia, Tara Moss, who was interviewed on TV about her new book. She felt she needed to write form personal knowledge and so she hired a bloke to literally choke her unconscious, so she could really know how to write about it. I also am a writer and frankly think there are lengths to which it is ridiculous to go, but hey, it's her choice. And talking about it sells more books for her. The thing is - people's response to her and this approach to research was interesting. Most people were shocked, some though, "Wow, what dedication to research," but I think most thought, "Wow - what a risk to take with your own life, and the brain you need to use to pursue your craft." My point - this act is a big deal. Asphyxia is a big deal. When Tara Moss was choked unconscious, it was done by an experienced person who was acting calmly, rationally and not in a fit of anger. She felt safer because the person knew what they were doing, she said, and was aware of exactly how to apply just the right amount of force. But in this situation, a kid lashed out and choked another kid. No experience, no calculated "I can apply this force for this number of seconds then I let go," it as "I want to choke the living daylights out of him and I don't care." One is a controlled situation; one is definitely not. Both are risky, but the risks are greater, with the least amount of controls. And for any school staff to be so relaxed about this, I am horrified. The only possible excuse I can see, is because this was an after-school event and it happened away from the main action, so possibly in the teachers' minds, tis was not a matter of school jurisdiction. But it still comes back to concerns for teacher response for difficult child 2's safety when he IS back in a school situation and this other kid is present. And also to their basic human compassion (or lack thereof) in not calling an ambulance for a kid who has been choked unconscious. Surely they are not really so lacking in compassion? In which case - at some level, they DO feel a sense of "Oops, we dropped the ball on this one; now how can we salvage our jobs out of this?" What do other parents think about this incident? It could have been their kid. Then again - there is sometimes the attitude of "It happened to a difficult child, and we all know they're a bit weird and often can't be believed, trusted or valued." The more I think about this, the angrier I am getting. Officialdom needs to be informed at some level, but whether it needs to be the police - I don't think the police involvement alone would get the necessary result. But on matters of keeping children safe at school - maybe there, the police might have something to say. Or CPS? Certainly the education authorities should be in a position to respond and help clean up this mess. Marg [/QUOTE]
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