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<blockquote data-quote="donna723" data-source="post: 37726" data-attributes="member: 1883"><p>OK, I finally listened to this ... and it's <em>HORRIBLE</em>! It's <em>vicious</em> and <em>hateful</em> and and <em>threatening</em> and it sounds like he's taking out all his venomous feelings for the mother on the eleven year old kid! This is AWFUL! There is NO excuse! HE is still the adult and SHE is still the kid! If my ex- had talked about coming to see one of my kids in this threatening tone of voice, I'd make sure he got nowhere near my child, even if it was "court ordered"!! I had only read a few quotes of what he said to the girl before, but when I listened to the whole tape, it just goes on and on and on... And when you listen to it, it sounds like he's just angry because she had her phone turned off when he tryed to call her! And his anger just escalates and escalates the more he talks! If he talks to her that way, why would she want to talk to him! Much less SEE him! This is NOT a parent showing appropriate, justified anger towards a child for some misbehavior ... this is HATEFUL and THREATENING and FRIGHTENING!</p><p></p><p>But I certainly don't agree with the tape being made public. What is it our parents used to say about "airing your dirty laundry..."? And BOTH parents are to blame for it getting this bad. As long as this has gone on, this poor kid has grown up this way ... this is all she knows! BOTH parents have put her in the middle and used her and manipulated her as a weapon against the other! Sounds like they are both so hate-filled and spiteful that they've completely lost sight of what they are doing to this child!</p><p></p><p>As bad as this is, it certainly isn't uncommon! This is in the news because it's celebrities, but this happens all the time! I have a friend at work who is going through a divorce and she has a daughter this same age, and her soon-to-be ex is behaving just like this! He is not only targeting their daughter with his hate and his slurs against her, but her whole family including her son from a previous marriage that he helped raise! In Tennessee, divorcing couples with children are now required to attend court-ordered counseling about how to get through it without involving and further damaging the children - the main thrust of it is ... LEAVE THE KIDS <em>OUT</em> OF IT! She has gone, <em>he</em> has not!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donna723, post: 37726, member: 1883"] OK, I finally listened to this ... and it's [i]HORRIBLE[/i]! It's [i]vicious[/i] and [i]hateful[/i] and and [i]threatening[/i] and it sounds like he's taking out all his venomous feelings for the mother on the eleven year old kid! This is AWFUL! There is NO excuse! HE is still the adult and SHE is still the kid! If my ex- had talked about coming to see one of my kids in this threatening tone of voice, I'd make sure he got nowhere near my child, even if it was "court ordered"!! I had only read a few quotes of what he said to the girl before, but when I listened to the whole tape, it just goes on and on and on... And when you listen to it, it sounds like he's just angry because she had her phone turned off when he tryed to call her! And his anger just escalates and escalates the more he talks! If he talks to her that way, why would she want to talk to him! Much less SEE him! This is NOT a parent showing appropriate, justified anger towards a child for some misbehavior ... this is HATEFUL and THREATENING and FRIGHTENING! But I certainly don't agree with the tape being made public. What is it our parents used to say about "airing your dirty laundry..."? And BOTH parents are to blame for it getting this bad. As long as this has gone on, this poor kid has grown up this way ... this is all she knows! BOTH parents have put her in the middle and used her and manipulated her as a weapon against the other! Sounds like they are both so hate-filled and spiteful that they've completely lost sight of what they are doing to this child! As bad as this is, it certainly isn't uncommon! This is in the news because it's celebrities, but this happens all the time! I have a friend at work who is going through a divorce and she has a daughter this same age, and her soon-to-be ex is behaving just like this! He is not only targeting their daughter with his hate and his slurs against her, but her whole family including her son from a previous marriage that he helped raise! In Tennessee, divorcing couples with children are now required to attend court-ordered counseling about how to get through it without involving and further damaging the children - the main thrust of it is ... LEAVE THE KIDS [i]OUT[/i] OF IT! She has gone, [i]he[/i] has not! [/QUOTE]
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