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<blockquote data-quote="meowbunny" data-source="post: 177322" data-attributes="member: 3626"><p>I think a lot depends on how long the program is. The wilderness programs do a short-term fix. That is, the kid may buy into the program while there, but things are a lot different when they get home. It doesn't take long to fall back into the old habits.</p><p> </p><p>An EGBS can be successful if (1) long enough (at least 18 months, 2 years is even better); (2) the kid actually works the program at some point; (3) the parent learns new methods of dealing with the child. The last two really do go hand-in-hand. The child is not going to change if the parents don't. Another factor is how much contact the child will have with old friends -- both while at the school, during home visits and once the program ends. Without the removal of these friends and influences, there isn't much chance of success in the long run.</p><p> </p><p>For my daughter, an EGBS wasn't quite enough. She needed more of an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) setting with staff that is more trained for her to have a chance of success. I do know kids who went to an EGBS in Idaho. One was successful when he came home but his parents moved to a new town to give him a new start. The other went back to his old ways of drugging and partying.</p><p> </p><p>One thing to factor in is that the $35K is just the beginning of costs. Few include the costs of private therapy; medications, including the physician fees for prescribing the same; clothing; school supplies; trips; your costs for visiting, which will include food and lodging; etc. My daughter's Residential Treatment Center (RTC) was $80K/year -- the education fees were covered by the school district but everything else was on me. My additional costs were at least $40K/year, for a total of almost $100K out of pocket.</p><p> </p><p>These type of schools are very, very expensive. Before doing it, talk to parents of kids who are in the program, who have completed the program and who have pulled their kids out of the program. You need the input of all three to get an accurate picture of whether this type of place is a good fit for your son. If the school refuses to give you these names, then find someplace else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="meowbunny, post: 177322, member: 3626"] I think a lot depends on how long the program is. The wilderness programs do a short-term fix. That is, the kid may buy into the program while there, but things are a lot different when they get home. It doesn't take long to fall back into the old habits. An EGBS can be successful if (1) long enough (at least 18 months, 2 years is even better); (2) the kid actually works the program at some point; (3) the parent learns new methods of dealing with the child. The last two really do go hand-in-hand. The child is not going to change if the parents don't. Another factor is how much contact the child will have with old friends -- both while at the school, during home visits and once the program ends. Without the removal of these friends and influences, there isn't much chance of success in the long run. For my daughter, an EGBS wasn't quite enough. She needed more of an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) setting with staff that is more trained for her to have a chance of success. I do know kids who went to an EGBS in Idaho. One was successful when he came home but his parents moved to a new town to give him a new start. The other went back to his old ways of drugging and partying. One thing to factor in is that the $35K is just the beginning of costs. Few include the costs of private therapy; medications, including the physician fees for prescribing the same; clothing; school supplies; trips; your costs for visiting, which will include food and lodging; etc. My daughter's Residential Treatment Center (RTC) was $80K/year -- the education fees were covered by the school district but everything else was on me. My additional costs were at least $40K/year, for a total of almost $100K out of pocket. These type of schools are very, very expensive. Before doing it, talk to parents of kids who are in the program, who have completed the program and who have pulled their kids out of the program. You need the input of all three to get an accurate picture of whether this type of place is a good fit for your son. If the school refuses to give you these names, then find someplace else. [/QUOTE]
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