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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 237869" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>A couple of things - </p><p></p><p>1) Yes, the song is a bit "on the edge" in terms of its hints about same-sex relationships and infidelity, but frankly there are a lot more songs out there that have far worse messages (or even this message, more blatantly). But the more people make a huge fuss about it, the more popular the song will be and the more it will get played, not only now but in years to come. The best way to kill a song you don't like is NOT to picket, but to use apathy. </p><p></p><p>2) Songs which REALLY drive me nuts and have me wanting to smash the TV screen are the "gangsta rap" ones which have absolutely no redeeming features whatsoever; they seem to champion their lack of morals, their lack of any depth and meaning at all. For a couple of years now Aussie TV hasn't played representative samples of what is poupar in the charts. I usually watch the stuff because it keeps me in touch with what my kdis are listening to (so I can talk to them about it) and, frankly, because I like a lot of it. They also occasionally play classics from my era and I love hearing my kids' reactions to it. Often they like the old stuff too.</p><p>But I learned to really hate a great deal of "gangsta rap" when I realised that the vast bulk of these songs were about how the singer was acquiring outward trappings of wealth ("bling") and a lot of attractive females wearing very little, with their brains apparently checked at the door, wrapped around them. The hints (or sometimes obvious portrayal) of violence underpinning it all really made me angry and sick to the stomach - it was sending a clear message that whatever you want, crime will get it for you. And if what you want is sex as well as money, that is desirable. Promiscuity is good, shallow relationships are to be aimed for, whatever you want you can buy it if you steal enough.</p><p>The day I watched the video clip for a 'song' whose main message was "I have so much money I'm buying diamonds to be made into fake teeth that I wear in my mouth, to show you how wasteful I am" with girls singing, "Show us your grille, daddy" - that was when I felt the genre had hit rock bottom. Unfortunately, it probably can plumb lower depths.</p><p>THAT is what I really consider to be obscene. That, and the message it sends to our girls, that you should let a man treat you like dirt if he has enough diamonds.</p><p></p><p>I like the stuff that Pink does. I really liked "Stupid Girls" because it said what I had been trying to say to my kids, but said it in a way that my kids valued and would listen to.</p><p></p><p>The moral of the story - if you want to fight a song like "I Kissed a Girl" then use either the same medium, or use ridicule. Remember the days of records? Playing a record at the wrong speed? Get acopy of "I Kissed a Girl" and manipulate it through your computer to play at a slower speed. The singer's voice sounds male, it totally changes the apparent meaning of the song. It also slows it down to dirge level.</p><p>Then play THAT to your kids and watch their reactions.</p><p></p><p>Ridicule. Works better than banning anything.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 237869, member: 1991"] A couple of things - 1) Yes, the song is a bit "on the edge" in terms of its hints about same-sex relationships and infidelity, but frankly there are a lot more songs out there that have far worse messages (or even this message, more blatantly). But the more people make a huge fuss about it, the more popular the song will be and the more it will get played, not only now but in years to come. The best way to kill a song you don't like is NOT to picket, but to use apathy. 2) Songs which REALLY drive me nuts and have me wanting to smash the TV screen are the "gangsta rap" ones which have absolutely no redeeming features whatsoever; they seem to champion their lack of morals, their lack of any depth and meaning at all. For a couple of years now Aussie TV hasn't played representative samples of what is poupar in the charts. I usually watch the stuff because it keeps me in touch with what my kdis are listening to (so I can talk to them about it) and, frankly, because I like a lot of it. They also occasionally play classics from my era and I love hearing my kids' reactions to it. Often they like the old stuff too. But I learned to really hate a great deal of "gangsta rap" when I realised that the vast bulk of these songs were about how the singer was acquiring outward trappings of wealth ("bling") and a lot of attractive females wearing very little, with their brains apparently checked at the door, wrapped around them. The hints (or sometimes obvious portrayal) of violence underpinning it all really made me angry and sick to the stomach - it was sending a clear message that whatever you want, crime will get it for you. And if what you want is sex as well as money, that is desirable. Promiscuity is good, shallow relationships are to be aimed for, whatever you want you can buy it if you steal enough. The day I watched the video clip for a 'song' whose main message was "I have so much money I'm buying diamonds to be made into fake teeth that I wear in my mouth, to show you how wasteful I am" with girls singing, "Show us your grille, daddy" - that was when I felt the genre had hit rock bottom. Unfortunately, it probably can plumb lower depths. THAT is what I really consider to be obscene. That, and the message it sends to our girls, that you should let a man treat you like dirt if he has enough diamonds. I like the stuff that Pink does. I really liked "Stupid Girls" because it said what I had been trying to say to my kids, but said it in a way that my kids valued and would listen to. The moral of the story - if you want to fight a song like "I Kissed a Girl" then use either the same medium, or use ridicule. Remember the days of records? Playing a record at the wrong speed? Get acopy of "I Kissed a Girl" and manipulate it through your computer to play at a slower speed. The singer's voice sounds male, it totally changes the apparent meaning of the song. It also slows it down to dirge level. Then play THAT to your kids and watch their reactions. Ridicule. Works better than banning anything. Marg [/QUOTE]
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