This whole situation has gotten so bizarre and unbelievable--that is really does feel like I am caught up in some kind of Twilight Zone or Alternate Dimension...
When last we left off, I had spoken to the sheriff about difficult child's notes that talked about killing her parents...
A lot of parents that responded on my thread had some very good ideas--good ideas that, evidently, don't apply here in the Twilight Zone.
There is no such thing as a "Child in Need of Services" or CHINS petition...the closest thing would be to have a child declared "Incorrigible". The sheriff also told me I could request a "pick up order". Either one will get difficult child in front of a judge, but they are just as likely to send her back home as anything else. I have been told that it may take a few court appearances before she would even be considered for an evaluation at the state hospital.
Yes, there are Residential Treatment Center (RTC) programs in this state and in neighboring states--BUT cuts to medicaid means that psychiatrists and phosps and our county health facility are no longer referring anyone to these places. So it is not a matter of "no facilities exist"--it is a matter of "no referrals will be forthcoming".
Despite the fact that "no referrals will be forthcoming"--the therapist UNBELIEVABLY asked difficult child how she feels about being placed outside her home (since she assumed we were going to arrange placement for difficult child someplace where we would be paying privately. yea right!! difficult child is on medicaid, so you assume her parents can afford $60k per year for a private therapeutic facility?!?!? MORON!!!!).
So yes, the therapist who was meeting with a child who hates her parents so much she is attempting to lure others into a plot to kill them--told this child that her parents were going to have her shipped off somewhere.
difficult child responded that if anyone attempts to take her anywhere, jail, a hospital, or Residential Treatment Center (RTC)--she will kill herself before she gets through the door. No problem...therapist changed the subject and then told difficult child she will see has after Thanksgiving.
So difficult child left that appointment with a look on her face like she was either going to cry or kill something. She refused to speak to me for the rest of the day. When her father got home she yelled at him about how we weren't allowed to make those kinds of decisions for her since it's her life--and he just yelled back that no, it's not her life--her life belongs to her parents until she is eighteen years old and he will make whatever decisions he feels necessary.
Meanwhile, I am still trying to get together the records necessary to petition the state to release funds on difficult child's behalf to provide treatment in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or other therapeutic setting...
BUT--I can't get any of the records for her psychiatric hospital stay in October, because the psychiatrist is way behind in dictating all his notes--so that is unavailable.
I can't get school records of skipped classes and discipline reports because nobody bothered entering the information into the computer. No records exist.
I can't get a city police report from the day difficult child left school and went missing for hours and hours because it was never filed. No record exists.
I can't get a city police report from the day officers responded to the school because difficult child was making a scene about running away. No record exists.
And the only reports I can get me hands on are the county police reports (thank goodness for small miracles!) and a report from our wonderful county mental health facility--who despite all of difficult child's issues--recorded her diagnosis as simply "ADHD with some symptoms of possible ODD". No mention of depression, mood disorder or any of the things docs have been saying verbally.
So how do you demand help for a child when no evidence exists that there is a problem?
No wonder everyone thinks I am the one that is crazy....
--DaisyFace
When last we left off, I had spoken to the sheriff about difficult child's notes that talked about killing her parents...
A lot of parents that responded on my thread had some very good ideas--good ideas that, evidently, don't apply here in the Twilight Zone.
There is no such thing as a "Child in Need of Services" or CHINS petition...the closest thing would be to have a child declared "Incorrigible". The sheriff also told me I could request a "pick up order". Either one will get difficult child in front of a judge, but they are just as likely to send her back home as anything else. I have been told that it may take a few court appearances before she would even be considered for an evaluation at the state hospital.
Yes, there are Residential Treatment Center (RTC) programs in this state and in neighboring states--BUT cuts to medicaid means that psychiatrists and phosps and our county health facility are no longer referring anyone to these places. So it is not a matter of "no facilities exist"--it is a matter of "no referrals will be forthcoming".
Despite the fact that "no referrals will be forthcoming"--the therapist UNBELIEVABLY asked difficult child how she feels about being placed outside her home (since she assumed we were going to arrange placement for difficult child someplace where we would be paying privately. yea right!! difficult child is on medicaid, so you assume her parents can afford $60k per year for a private therapeutic facility?!?!? MORON!!!!).
So yes, the therapist who was meeting with a child who hates her parents so much she is attempting to lure others into a plot to kill them--told this child that her parents were going to have her shipped off somewhere.
difficult child responded that if anyone attempts to take her anywhere, jail, a hospital, or Residential Treatment Center (RTC)--she will kill herself before she gets through the door. No problem...therapist changed the subject and then told difficult child she will see has after Thanksgiving.
So difficult child left that appointment with a look on her face like she was either going to cry or kill something. She refused to speak to me for the rest of the day. When her father got home she yelled at him about how we weren't allowed to make those kinds of decisions for her since it's her life--and he just yelled back that no, it's not her life--her life belongs to her parents until she is eighteen years old and he will make whatever decisions he feels necessary.
Meanwhile, I am still trying to get together the records necessary to petition the state to release funds on difficult child's behalf to provide treatment in an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or other therapeutic setting...
BUT--I can't get any of the records for her psychiatric hospital stay in October, because the psychiatrist is way behind in dictating all his notes--so that is unavailable.
I can't get school records of skipped classes and discipline reports because nobody bothered entering the information into the computer. No records exist.
I can't get a city police report from the day difficult child left school and went missing for hours and hours because it was never filed. No record exists.
I can't get a city police report from the day officers responded to the school because difficult child was making a scene about running away. No record exists.
And the only reports I can get me hands on are the county police reports (thank goodness for small miracles!) and a report from our wonderful county mental health facility--who despite all of difficult child's issues--recorded her diagnosis as simply "ADHD with some symptoms of possible ODD". No mention of depression, mood disorder or any of the things docs have been saying verbally.
So how do you demand help for a child when no evidence exists that there is a problem?
No wonder everyone thinks I am the one that is crazy....
--DaisyFace
