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<blockquote data-quote="donna723" data-source="post: 91164" data-attributes="member: 1883"><p>Janet, all I am saying is that you cannot judge state-run prisons by what goes on in the county jails. They are two completely different things - apples and oranges. Some county jails are OK, most are horrible. Not saying that the state prisons are so wonderful, but at least they are consistent, they are very closely monitored and regulated, and you have recourse if there are problems. </p><p></p><p>I completely agree with you that most county jails are abysmal! They are pretty much just human warehouses, each having their own rules, usually bad food, no programs, no jobs, nothing for them to do, cutting corners where ever they can, and bad things can and do go on there that escape detection. They are, for the most part, seperate independent entities that operate on the whims of whomever is in charge and how much money the county is willing to spend on those it has incarcerated. I <u>DO</u> think though that you are maybe getting yourself all upset prematurely by making assumptions that the conditions will be the same in the state prison as they are in some of the county jails. <u>That simply isn't true</u>. </p><p></p><p>And I also completely agree with you that prison is <u>not</u> the best place for someone like Ant whose main problem is alcoholism. But the fact remains that he <em>will</em> be there for the next two years. And if he stays out of trouble and takes advantage of some of the programs that will be available to him, he just might come out of it the better for the experience. Federal money pays for drug and alcohol treatment programs in the State prisons - they ALL have them. It will be there if he chooses to take advantage of it, and I pray that he does. </p><p></p><p>Please don't be angry with me. Believe me, I've been "in the system" long enough to know exactly what goes on, both from our side and from theirs. It won't be any picnic for him but it won't be as bad as what you're imagining - I promise you. I know how frightened and discouraged you must be, and Ant too. Plus Ant is now going through the experience of being forced to "dry out" after being so heavily reliant on alcohol for so long, so it must be very difficult for him. Just try to take it as it comes and wait to see how it is when he actually gets permanently assigned. Keep in touch with him, encourage him to participate in as many programs as he can and to use this time "away" to his advantage. Ant is still very young - he has his whole life ahead of him, and two years isn't "forever". Over the years I have seen many just like Ant who got out and went on to have happy, productive lives - got good jobs, started families and stayed out of trouble. It happens all the time. Sending lots and lots of hugs to you, Ant and Kaleb too.</p><p></p><p> :flower:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donna723, post: 91164, member: 1883"] Janet, all I am saying is that you cannot judge state-run prisons by what goes on in the county jails. They are two completely different things - apples and oranges. Some county jails are OK, most are horrible. Not saying that the state prisons are so wonderful, but at least they are consistent, they are very closely monitored and regulated, and you have recourse if there are problems. I completely agree with you that most county jails are abysmal! They are pretty much just human warehouses, each having their own rules, usually bad food, no programs, no jobs, nothing for them to do, cutting corners where ever they can, and bad things can and do go on there that escape detection. They are, for the most part, seperate independent entities that operate on the whims of whomever is in charge and how much money the county is willing to spend on those it has incarcerated. I <u>DO</u> think though that you are maybe getting yourself all upset prematurely by making assumptions that the conditions will be the same in the state prison as they are in some of the county jails. <u>That simply isn't true</u>. And I also completely agree with you that prison is <u>not</u> the best place for someone like Ant whose main problem is alcoholism. But the fact remains that he [i]will[/i] be there for the next two years. And if he stays out of trouble and takes advantage of some of the programs that will be available to him, he just might come out of it the better for the experience. Federal money pays for drug and alcohol treatment programs in the State prisons - they ALL have them. It will be there if he chooses to take advantage of it, and I pray that he does. Please don't be angry with me. Believe me, I've been "in the system" long enough to know exactly what goes on, both from our side and from theirs. It won't be any picnic for him but it won't be as bad as what you're imagining - I promise you. I know how frightened and discouraged you must be, and Ant too. Plus Ant is now going through the experience of being forced to "dry out" after being so heavily reliant on alcohol for so long, so it must be very difficult for him. Just try to take it as it comes and wait to see how it is when he actually gets permanently assigned. Keep in touch with him, encourage him to participate in as many programs as he can and to use this time "away" to his advantage. Ant is still very young - he has his whole life ahead of him, and two years isn't "forever". Over the years I have seen many just like Ant who got out and went on to have happy, productive lives - got good jobs, started families and stayed out of trouble. It happens all the time. Sending lots and lots of hugs to you, Ant and Kaleb too. [img]:flower:[/img] [/QUOTE]
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