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<blockquote data-quote="Andy" data-source="post: 147708" data-attributes="member: 5096"><p>We will keep open to the epilepsy possibilities. His anxiety has decreased considerably with the medications he is on. Also, no more self harm/suicide thoughts so for now they are working. I don't like using medications so am doing everything possible to determine the need for the medication before starting or changing it. We want to be sure that we are treating the right thing. So, medication is o.k. as long as it is needed and not just to mask a problem. Clonazepam is meant for short term so he needs to start getting off that soon. I am hoping to start when school ends - summer should be less stressful. I am thinking that any epilesy symptoms may also show when this is decreased.</p><p> </p><p>We are working with a psychiatirst, a pediatrician, and a neurologist NP. I feel good that the therapist will listen to my input and work with me. We talked about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and ODD this last week. When I asked about treatment, he stated it may be a higher dose of the flouxetine. I told him I would like a test to diagnosis Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) before increasing medications based on "looks like". He stated he will give difficult child an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) test. I am looking at scrupulosity which deals with rules and doing what is right. ODD just doesn't feel right at this time (no agression).</p><p> </p><p>I looked at the Asperger's site - still does not look like he fits the symptoms but I will keep rechecking it as his symptoms continue to emerge.</p><p> </p><p>Guess I should not say "onset" as if things are starting, it is more "onset" that symptoms are showing to start a diagnosis. Maybe he has been so good at hiding his symptoms and it is just getting too hard to do so? The anxiety was too hard to handle so that is now out in the open. </p><p> </p><p>Anyway, I will look more carefully at how I use the word "defiant". I know he is disobeying because he sees the situation different, not to actually oppose authority. I try hard to see things his way so that he knows that I do understand where he is coming from and use that as a basis to explain why it needs to be different but he also needs to try to see things my way so he understands where I am coming from. I have learned that it sometimes takes several hours for him to be able to try to understand the other view point. And of course, he needs time to cool off before being open to listen to my viewpoint and try to figure out a solution (Like, because you argued with the teacher, she had the right to remove you from the line. How could this have been different? Maybe obeying right away and then talking to the teacher in private later? Maybe politely telling the teacher what happened?)</p><p> </p><p>I am blessed with a great teaching staff at the school he is at. They are open to learning how to teach him and willing to modify as needed. The Rosa Parks teacher is really a great teacher - I believe what caught her off guard was how abrupt my son was. Once he said "No! That's not fair." very forcefully, it put her in a new situation. Teachers can not have students talking back to or arguing with them. If he would have reacted differently, maybe she would have taken a different route. It was so out of character for him that it probably shocked everyone around and she did what she thought was needed to end the situation quickly before it grew (which it did). He did apologize to her after school the next day. </p><p> </p><p>I have always tried to be positive with expectations. The teachers are always positive with disciplines and teaching strategies. His main teacher has a brother who difficult child reminds her of. She recognized a full blown migrane because her experience with her brother. She is open to allowing him alone time to "vent" by journaling his thoughts. difficult child is more open to talking to her. I told him to let her know when he needs a "break" to de-stress. He used these breaks when returning from the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but I haven't heard of any in the last several months. He may need to start again?</p><p> </p><p>He is struggling in school this year. The two weeks at Residential Treatment Center (RTC) didn't help with school work. He wouldn't ask their teacher for help because their teacher spent too much time yelling at kids to get their work done. He didn't want to be yelled at so just stayed to himself. I would think they need a new teacher - you need someone with a lot of patience and encouragement to work with Residential Treatment Center (RTC) students. So, he basically just did the work without being taught.</p><p> </p><p>Even though he grew up in this school, it seems he is facing a "new kid on the block" syndrome. He just can't seem to get in the groove with the other kids again. They like different sports than him and seems to have different interests. difficult child loves to play outside but when friends come over, they just want to play our Wii. A friend has a gigantic Lego collection and talks about how much fun it is. However, when difficult child goes to his home, the friend doesn't want to play Legos (the one thing other kids want to do at his home). The other kids are also more flexible with rules which he has a hard time with - why have the rule if you don't stick to it? (I'm with him - maybe he gets some of this from me - my pet peeves are all around rule breaking - you know, liks cars cutting across a parking lot or going the wrong way out - the lines and rules are for a purpose even with no traffic around, you stay in the lines going the right way!)</p><p> </p><p>I have a teenage boy coming in this Summer to watch him while I am at work. This boy will keep difficult child active - bike rides around town, catch ball, etc. I think this Summer is going to be great for difficult child. This boy is a great Big Brother figure for difficult child.</p><p> </p><p>I will keep you up to date.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andy, post: 147708, member: 5096"] We will keep open to the epilepsy possibilities. His anxiety has decreased considerably with the medications he is on. Also, no more self harm/suicide thoughts so for now they are working. I don't like using medications so am doing everything possible to determine the need for the medication before starting or changing it. We want to be sure that we are treating the right thing. So, medication is o.k. as long as it is needed and not just to mask a problem. Clonazepam is meant for short term so he needs to start getting off that soon. I am hoping to start when school ends - summer should be less stressful. I am thinking that any epilesy symptoms may also show when this is decreased. We are working with a psychiatirst, a pediatrician, and a neurologist NP. I feel good that the therapist will listen to my input and work with me. We talked about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and ODD this last week. When I asked about treatment, he stated it may be a higher dose of the flouxetine. I told him I would like a test to diagnosis Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) before increasing medications based on "looks like". He stated he will give difficult child an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) test. I am looking at scrupulosity which deals with rules and doing what is right. ODD just doesn't feel right at this time (no agression). I looked at the Asperger's site - still does not look like he fits the symptoms but I will keep rechecking it as his symptoms continue to emerge. Guess I should not say "onset" as if things are starting, it is more "onset" that symptoms are showing to start a diagnosis. Maybe he has been so good at hiding his symptoms and it is just getting too hard to do so? The anxiety was too hard to handle so that is now out in the open. Anyway, I will look more carefully at how I use the word "defiant". I know he is disobeying because he sees the situation different, not to actually oppose authority. I try hard to see things his way so that he knows that I do understand where he is coming from and use that as a basis to explain why it needs to be different but he also needs to try to see things my way so he understands where I am coming from. I have learned that it sometimes takes several hours for him to be able to try to understand the other view point. And of course, he needs time to cool off before being open to listen to my viewpoint and try to figure out a solution (Like, because you argued with the teacher, she had the right to remove you from the line. How could this have been different? Maybe obeying right away and then talking to the teacher in private later? Maybe politely telling the teacher what happened?) I am blessed with a great teaching staff at the school he is at. They are open to learning how to teach him and willing to modify as needed. The Rosa Parks teacher is really a great teacher - I believe what caught her off guard was how abrupt my son was. Once he said "No! That's not fair." very forcefully, it put her in a new situation. Teachers can not have students talking back to or arguing with them. If he would have reacted differently, maybe she would have taken a different route. It was so out of character for him that it probably shocked everyone around and she did what she thought was needed to end the situation quickly before it grew (which it did). He did apologize to her after school the next day. I have always tried to be positive with expectations. The teachers are always positive with disciplines and teaching strategies. His main teacher has a brother who difficult child reminds her of. She recognized a full blown migrane because her experience with her brother. She is open to allowing him alone time to "vent" by journaling his thoughts. difficult child is more open to talking to her. I told him to let her know when he needs a "break" to de-stress. He used these breaks when returning from the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but I haven't heard of any in the last several months. He may need to start again? He is struggling in school this year. The two weeks at Residential Treatment Center (RTC) didn't help with school work. He wouldn't ask their teacher for help because their teacher spent too much time yelling at kids to get their work done. He didn't want to be yelled at so just stayed to himself. I would think they need a new teacher - you need someone with a lot of patience and encouragement to work with Residential Treatment Center (RTC) students. So, he basically just did the work without being taught. Even though he grew up in this school, it seems he is facing a "new kid on the block" syndrome. He just can't seem to get in the groove with the other kids again. They like different sports than him and seems to have different interests. difficult child loves to play outside but when friends come over, they just want to play our Wii. A friend has a gigantic Lego collection and talks about how much fun it is. However, when difficult child goes to his home, the friend doesn't want to play Legos (the one thing other kids want to do at his home). The other kids are also more flexible with rules which he has a hard time with - why have the rule if you don't stick to it? (I'm with him - maybe he gets some of this from me - my pet peeves are all around rule breaking - you know, liks cars cutting across a parking lot or going the wrong way out - the lines and rules are for a purpose even with no traffic around, you stay in the lines going the right way!) I have a teenage boy coming in this Summer to watch him while I am at work. This boy will keep difficult child active - bike rides around town, catch ball, etc. I think this Summer is going to be great for difficult child. This boy is a great Big Brother figure for difficult child. I will keep you up to date. [/QUOTE]
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