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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 399984" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I have NOT found that autistic people cannot lie. I know quite a few of different ages who lie very very well, including Wiz. There were quite a few threads when he was at his difficult child most about his lying to us, to his teachers, to my mother (who bought every single one, esp about husband and I, regardless of the level of ridiculousness, all the while being proud ofher "ability" to "know" when anyone is lying, lol) to anyone else. He had to get tired of not being believed and of getting into trouble for it to stop being worthwhile to lie. He got really sick of it when my father insisted on independent verification of every single word that came out of his mouth - from Good Morning to I did my homework to good night. My dad finally got through when he stopped taking MY MOTHER"s work automatically that Wiz did what he should/said he did/was expected. My dad got tired of Wiz "making" my mother a liar by getting her to believe sometihng that wasn't true. I have NO idea what/how he did it, except through his own Aspie bull-headedness. </p><p> </p><p>My father is an Aspie. Very high functioning, has gained an excellent understanding of people by teaching jr high for over 3 decades, but is still an Aspie. He chooses not to lie almost always, but is a VERY convincing liar/practical joker when he wants to be. </p><p> </p><p>I know that it is popular to think that autistics "can't" lie, but they learn very very well when they want to. And it often gets to the point where in social situations they get more out of lying that being truthful - so they go with what works. in my opinion it starts with peers and spreads as they become believable.</p><p> </p><p>bust him and demand proof of every single thing that comes out of his mouth if your actions/behavior depend on what he does/says. It is the ONLY way to get through this, IF you can.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 399984, member: 1233"] I have NOT found that autistic people cannot lie. I know quite a few of different ages who lie very very well, including Wiz. There were quite a few threads when he was at his difficult child most about his lying to us, to his teachers, to my mother (who bought every single one, esp about husband and I, regardless of the level of ridiculousness, all the while being proud ofher "ability" to "know" when anyone is lying, lol) to anyone else. He had to get tired of not being believed and of getting into trouble for it to stop being worthwhile to lie. He got really sick of it when my father insisted on independent verification of every single word that came out of his mouth - from Good Morning to I did my homework to good night. My dad finally got through when he stopped taking MY MOTHER"s work automatically that Wiz did what he should/said he did/was expected. My dad got tired of Wiz "making" my mother a liar by getting her to believe sometihng that wasn't true. I have NO idea what/how he did it, except through his own Aspie bull-headedness. My father is an Aspie. Very high functioning, has gained an excellent understanding of people by teaching jr high for over 3 decades, but is still an Aspie. He chooses not to lie almost always, but is a VERY convincing liar/practical joker when he wants to be. I know that it is popular to think that autistics "can't" lie, but they learn very very well when they want to. And it often gets to the point where in social situations they get more out of lying that being truthful - so they go with what works. in my opinion it starts with peers and spreads as they become believable. bust him and demand proof of every single thing that comes out of his mouth if your actions/behavior depend on what he does/says. It is the ONLY way to get through this, IF you can. [/QUOTE]
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