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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 502603" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>HUH??? I really dont get that. No IEP type prevents them from being suspended or expelled. who told you that? ANY child with ANY disability is protected from or allowed to be suspended according to legal guidelines. It all depends on the staff at the school how tolerant and not ingnorant they are. It is actually counter intuitive to me to say that a kid with a neurological condition like autism would be suspended or more likely to be expelled than a child with an emotional or behavioral disorder. Especially given that many kids with autism are also cognitively delayed. NEITHER sould be suspended in my humble opinion in most cases.... but I am preaching to the choir.</p><p></p><p>What the waiver lady is probably saying is that in each category of waivers there are only a certain number of waivers available and in your area maybe there are more available in the kinds of waiver that take kids with autism. (usually CADI or daughter waivers) Mental health waivers may be more limited in your area....??? It changes every few years around here....</p><p></p><p>In the end waivers are a medical assistance program and they should qualify or not qualify based on what their MEDICAL diagnosis is. the IEP can give evidence to the issues the child has. You might want to ask the workers supervisor for more of an explanation. </p><p></p><p>Do you feel she has Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)? Why is she on an ED IEP anyway??? did the school disagree with that category for her? Are you happy with her educational programing? For elementary school sometimes they share teachers... will she have access to autism programing (asperger's support with an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) specialist? there are some pretty specific issues for kids with aspergers once puberty hits that might need to be dealt with differently than if she was only ED... </p><p></p><p>IN MN criteria this is what it says.... you would have to look for your specific state's wording but..</p><p></p><p>among the ED criteria it says...</p><p></p><p>(2) <span style="color: #000000">a pattern of unsatisfactory educational progress that is <strong>not </strong>primarily a result of intellectual, sensory, physical health, cultural, or linguistic factors; illegal chemical use; <strong>autism spectrum disorders </strong>under part <a href="https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules?id=3525.1325" target="_blank">3525.1325</a>; or inconsistent educational programming.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">So is it because they went with the bipolar diagnosis? You have a ? on that one so I thought that the aspie was maybe more what you feel is right? Sorry I am not clear on that. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I would maybe just ask more questions. I think I would ask the Special Education director if that is true that she has seen a pattern of dismissals more in the autism category vs. the emotional category. If you love her school programming then I wouldn't change it for the chance of a waiver.... </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Maybe her IEP should say primary disability category of (whichever you feel is correct... Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED) and secondary category of (the other one... Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED)???</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 502603, member: 12886"] HUH??? I really dont get that. No IEP type prevents them from being suspended or expelled. who told you that? ANY child with ANY disability is protected from or allowed to be suspended according to legal guidelines. It all depends on the staff at the school how tolerant and not ingnorant they are. It is actually counter intuitive to me to say that a kid with a neurological condition like autism would be suspended or more likely to be expelled than a child with an emotional or behavioral disorder. Especially given that many kids with autism are also cognitively delayed. NEITHER sould be suspended in my humble opinion in most cases.... but I am preaching to the choir. What the waiver lady is probably saying is that in each category of waivers there are only a certain number of waivers available and in your area maybe there are more available in the kinds of waiver that take kids with autism. (usually CADI or daughter waivers) Mental health waivers may be more limited in your area....??? It changes every few years around here.... In the end waivers are a medical assistance program and they should qualify or not qualify based on what their MEDICAL diagnosis is. the IEP can give evidence to the issues the child has. You might want to ask the workers supervisor for more of an explanation. Do you feel she has Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD)? Why is she on an ED IEP anyway??? did the school disagree with that category for her? Are you happy with her educational programing? For elementary school sometimes they share teachers... will she have access to autism programing (asperger's support with an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) specialist? there are some pretty specific issues for kids with aspergers once puberty hits that might need to be dealt with differently than if she was only ED... IN MN criteria this is what it says.... you would have to look for your specific state's wording but.. among the ED criteria it says... (2)[COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]a pattern of unsatisfactory educational progress that is [B]not [/B]primarily a result of intellectual, sensory, physical health, cultural, or linguistic factors; illegal chemical use; [B]autism spectrum disorders [/B]under part [URL="https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules?id=3525.1325"]3525.1325[/URL]; or inconsistent educational programming. So is it because they went with the bipolar diagnosis? You have a ? on that one so I thought that the aspie was maybe more what you feel is right? Sorry I am not clear on that. I would maybe just ask more questions. I think I would ask the Special Education director if that is true that she has seen a pattern of dismissals more in the autism category vs. the emotional category. If you love her school programming then I wouldn't change it for the chance of a waiver.... Maybe her IEP should say primary disability category of (whichever you feel is correct... Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED) and secondary category of (the other one... Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED)??? [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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