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<blockquote data-quote="welcometowitsend" data-source="post: 562174" data-attributes="member: 14356"><p>Insane - The last time he had a really really indepth evaluation was at age 9 when he was diagnosed with Tourette's and ADHD. The psychiatrist initially agreed with the original diagnosis and added Moderate Depression and possibly bipolar. And I agree with you about the ODD. </p><p></p><p>There is a lot of personality disorder stuff in my family. Of course nothing that has been diagnosed but there are very obvious signs from several aunts, uncles and cousins as well. </p><p></p><p>Terry - I think he would go for the testing. I think he would go because he likes the attention it brings him. He can go back to his friends, school, etc and he has 'proof' that he has problems. He absolutely loved the attention he got after being in the hospital psychiatric ward. He didn't care who knew about it. One would think that it would be the opposite but not with difficult child. He has a friend who called him an attention wh**re last year and she truly hit the nail on the head. </p><p></p><p>Right now he is couch surfing with a friend. Apparently he has a lead on a shared accommodation. We have agreed to sell his dirtbike and give him the money for first and last. If he works enough part-time shifts at his job he should be able to get by ok. He makes $10 an hour so if he works 20-25 hours a week he will make $800-$1000 a month. He should be able to get those hours if he asks for them. The rent on this place he is looking at is $400/month. If he actually puts for the effort and maintains a place for himself and is looking like he is headed in the right direction then husband and I would have no problem buying him some new clothes when needed, supplying groceries, that kind of thing - but I will not give him actual $$.</p><p></p><p>My parents have texted him a few times over the last couple of weeks - he doesn't even bother to respond to them. </p><p>Bunny - Yes, our difficult child's sound a lot alike. He tried to get my husband out of the house last year by accusing him of abuse. It didn't work but I think he wanted to be able to bully me without husband around to protect me. He's never hit me but he uses his size to intimidate me. </p><p></p><p>Thank you for the idea of emailing the information to the psychiatrist. That might work and that way she will have the information before the next appointment. Trying to talk to her with difficult child there will be difficult because of the lies and he absolutely refuses to listen - he has to talk talk talk over top of people so you can't get a word in. </p><p></p><p>Calamity - Unless he has started abusing drugs within the last month then he is not on drugs. I had him tested last March and again in early August and the hospital tested him at the end of September when he was admitted. </p><p></p><p>I think there is something deeper going on here. I pulled difficult child out of school when he was in Kindergarten because he was having problems. Small things like not asking permission to go to the bathroom, not following directions well, etc.. I thought his teacher was being too hard on him because I'd never really had any abnormal issues with his behaviour at home - just terrible 2's that kind of thing. He did get into a physical fight with a boy in JK and got sent home for the day. I look back at some behaviour and when he was about 8 or 9 my mom bought him a little pocket knife at a yard sale (I know - my mother is a difficult child). I kept it in a drawer for him to use with Daddy in the garage or outside. He snuck the knife out and told his little friend that he could kill him with it if he wanted to. In hindsight that is scary but at the time I just thought difficult child meant that knives could be dangerous and was showing off, you know? Maybe I"m reading too much into this. He certainly was never cruel to animals - at least not that I ever knew of or witnessed and we had a very loving and stable home for him. </p><p></p><p>So, difficult child was homeschooled through Grade 8 and so this is only his 3rd year in school. Grade 9 - great, glowing reviews from teachers, good grades, no skipping. Grade 10 - by November we were having serious problems. Grades slipping, some skipping, really bad attitude at home, pornography on his phone, etc.. - by March - grades in the toilet, skipping all the time, left home to live with girlfriend. - by June - back home, still having problems at school, almost failed everything, found more porn on computer (incestuous and beastiality porn as well as regular stuff), extremely unpredicatble, explosive, irrational (once left his house at 11pm and rode his back to several different towns all night) and his thinking is so distorted. Now he has progressed where he can't/won't follow a single rule and I think the only reason he takes his medications is because they make him happy and they give him some sort of 'status' among his friends and teachers(as in there is something wrong with him). He likes to be pitied. </p><p></p><p>Is it possible that this behaviour is only coming out now because he was homeschooled for so long? Or is it hormone related? I'm just grasping at straws trying to figure it out. </p><p></p><p>He told me in September that he would be quite happy to live on someone else's couch for the rest of his life. huh? </p><p></p><p>Another example of his distorted thinking - my cousin invited him to her sons birthday party. difficult child said "I'll bring my guitar." Cousin said "OK, you can if you want. But you don't have to, I'd just like to have you here." difficult child tells me that cousin wants him to come to the birthday party and play songs for the kids and be the entertainment. He literally turned "OK, you can bring it if you want." into a gig. And I think he believed it. </p><p></p><p>Sorry, now I'm rambling. I hope the psychiatrist listens and can give me some insight into this. Hopefully she does another really in depth analysis of him seeing as so much has changed since the last one. When we saw he rin August we spent a couple of hours with her but she didn't use any of the actual DSM-IV forms except the aspergers one which he didn't fit - except for the higher than normal iq category.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="welcometowitsend, post: 562174, member: 14356"] Insane - The last time he had a really really indepth evaluation was at age 9 when he was diagnosed with Tourette's and ADHD. The psychiatrist initially agreed with the original diagnosis and added Moderate Depression and possibly bipolar. And I agree with you about the ODD. There is a lot of personality disorder stuff in my family. Of course nothing that has been diagnosed but there are very obvious signs from several aunts, uncles and cousins as well. Terry - I think he would go for the testing. I think he would go because he likes the attention it brings him. He can go back to his friends, school, etc and he has 'proof' that he has problems. He absolutely loved the attention he got after being in the hospital psychiatric ward. He didn't care who knew about it. One would think that it would be the opposite but not with difficult child. He has a friend who called him an attention wh**re last year and she truly hit the nail on the head. Right now he is couch surfing with a friend. Apparently he has a lead on a shared accommodation. We have agreed to sell his dirtbike and give him the money for first and last. If he works enough part-time shifts at his job he should be able to get by ok. He makes $10 an hour so if he works 20-25 hours a week he will make $800-$1000 a month. He should be able to get those hours if he asks for them. The rent on this place he is looking at is $400/month. If he actually puts for the effort and maintains a place for himself and is looking like he is headed in the right direction then husband and I would have no problem buying him some new clothes when needed, supplying groceries, that kind of thing - but I will not give him actual $$. My parents have texted him a few times over the last couple of weeks - he doesn't even bother to respond to them. Bunny - Yes, our difficult child's sound a lot alike. He tried to get my husband out of the house last year by accusing him of abuse. It didn't work but I think he wanted to be able to bully me without husband around to protect me. He's never hit me but he uses his size to intimidate me. Thank you for the idea of emailing the information to the psychiatrist. That might work and that way she will have the information before the next appointment. Trying to talk to her with difficult child there will be difficult because of the lies and he absolutely refuses to listen - he has to talk talk talk over top of people so you can't get a word in. Calamity - Unless he has started abusing drugs within the last month then he is not on drugs. I had him tested last March and again in early August and the hospital tested him at the end of September when he was admitted. I think there is something deeper going on here. I pulled difficult child out of school when he was in Kindergarten because he was having problems. Small things like not asking permission to go to the bathroom, not following directions well, etc.. I thought his teacher was being too hard on him because I'd never really had any abnormal issues with his behaviour at home - just terrible 2's that kind of thing. He did get into a physical fight with a boy in JK and got sent home for the day. I look back at some behaviour and when he was about 8 or 9 my mom bought him a little pocket knife at a yard sale (I know - my mother is a difficult child). I kept it in a drawer for him to use with Daddy in the garage or outside. He snuck the knife out and told his little friend that he could kill him with it if he wanted to. In hindsight that is scary but at the time I just thought difficult child meant that knives could be dangerous and was showing off, you know? Maybe I"m reading too much into this. He certainly was never cruel to animals - at least not that I ever knew of or witnessed and we had a very loving and stable home for him. So, difficult child was homeschooled through Grade 8 and so this is only his 3rd year in school. Grade 9 - great, glowing reviews from teachers, good grades, no skipping. Grade 10 - by November we were having serious problems. Grades slipping, some skipping, really bad attitude at home, pornography on his phone, etc.. - by March - grades in the toilet, skipping all the time, left home to live with girlfriend. - by June - back home, still having problems at school, almost failed everything, found more porn on computer (incestuous and beastiality porn as well as regular stuff), extremely unpredicatble, explosive, irrational (once left his house at 11pm and rode his back to several different towns all night) and his thinking is so distorted. Now he has progressed where he can't/won't follow a single rule and I think the only reason he takes his medications is because they make him happy and they give him some sort of 'status' among his friends and teachers(as in there is something wrong with him). He likes to be pitied. Is it possible that this behaviour is only coming out now because he was homeschooled for so long? Or is it hormone related? I'm just grasping at straws trying to figure it out. He told me in September that he would be quite happy to live on someone else's couch for the rest of his life. huh? Another example of his distorted thinking - my cousin invited him to her sons birthday party. difficult child said "I'll bring my guitar." Cousin said "OK, you can if you want. But you don't have to, I'd just like to have you here." difficult child tells me that cousin wants him to come to the birthday party and play songs for the kids and be the entertainment. He literally turned "OK, you can bring it if you want." into a gig. And I think he believed it. Sorry, now I'm rambling. I hope the psychiatrist listens and can give me some insight into this. Hopefully she does another really in depth analysis of him seeing as so much has changed since the last one. When we saw he rin August we spent a couple of hours with her but she didn't use any of the actual DSM-IV forms except the aspergers one which he didn't fit - except for the higher than normal iq category. [/QUOTE]
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