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<blockquote data-quote="Martie" data-source="post: 79837" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>I was one of the early users of TEC---at that time, there were a lot of proponents on the board of "The Riley Method," which makes the child earn everything beyond one change of clothing and food.</p><p></p><p>Some people knew (with me being very vocal about this) that for depressed kids, this approach not only would not work, it would be potentially dangerous due to increased suicidality. I very much agree with all those who mention that TEC helped them view their child differently. Baskets also help with what Sheila mentioned: working on too many things at once causes problems. However, for me, the most important contribution of the book was Greene's explanation of why punishment DOES NOT WORK with explosive children. It helped me resist pressure to punish; and helped me with my husband's need to punish, to "shape that kid up..."</p><p></p><p>Not everything works for all children, but this board has over half it's children with a diagnosis of ODD and closely related disorders. It is not an accident in my opinion that the success rate using TEC techniques would be as high as it is because although Greene does not use the ODD label, that is the type of child the book is directed toward. There are significant differences between Greene's methods and b-mod. Greene is effective for some kids who become engrossed in defeating ANY b-mod system that is implemented. TEC cuts that route off because everything but safety (Basket A) is negotiable. I also think that some people cannot use TEC because they really are unable to get all their "preferences" out of Basket A. Tooth brushing is an example: with a child who explodes several times a day, most parents give up on toothbrushing if it is an explosive issue. Some, however, keep it in Basket A because having clean teeth is a health issue...ditto clean clothes, clean fingernails, clean anything... If you can really stick to a very small Basket A, and put a few things at a time in Basket B, kids actually do learn to negotiate and they "improve." </p><p></p><p>Over the course of time, things that were "hot" Basket B issues just drop off the radar screen. I stopped saying anything about hygiene (into Basket C)when ex-difficult child was at his worst (13.5-14). He did not get any dire diseases and I cannot IMAGINE having a discussion around these issues now. I know he is twenty, so maybe that does not seem like a good example, but I also have not thought about it for years...maybe tooth brushing was still a bit of a problem at 16, but the filling of a couple of cavities took care of the "last" hygiene issue.</p><p></p><p>I hope I haven't written too much, but I think there is a very specific reasons why Greene tends to work with the children represented on these boards and other methods tend to fail.</p><p></p><p>Best to you,</p><p></p><p>Martie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martie, post: 79837, member: 284"] I was one of the early users of TEC---at that time, there were a lot of proponents on the board of "The Riley Method," which makes the child earn everything beyond one change of clothing and food. Some people knew (with me being very vocal about this) that for depressed kids, this approach not only would not work, it would be potentially dangerous due to increased suicidality. I very much agree with all those who mention that TEC helped them view their child differently. Baskets also help with what Sheila mentioned: working on too many things at once causes problems. However, for me, the most important contribution of the book was Greene's explanation of why punishment DOES NOT WORK with explosive children. It helped me resist pressure to punish; and helped me with my husband's need to punish, to "shape that kid up..." Not everything works for all children, but this board has over half it's children with a diagnosis of ODD and closely related disorders. It is not an accident in my opinion that the success rate using TEC techniques would be as high as it is because although Greene does not use the ODD label, that is the type of child the book is directed toward. There are significant differences between Greene's methods and b-mod. Greene is effective for some kids who become engrossed in defeating ANY b-mod system that is implemented. TEC cuts that route off because everything but safety (Basket A) is negotiable. I also think that some people cannot use TEC because they really are unable to get all their "preferences" out of Basket A. Tooth brushing is an example: with a child who explodes several times a day, most parents give up on toothbrushing if it is an explosive issue. Some, however, keep it in Basket A because having clean teeth is a health issue...ditto clean clothes, clean fingernails, clean anything... If you can really stick to a very small Basket A, and put a few things at a time in Basket B, kids actually do learn to negotiate and they "improve." Over the course of time, things that were "hot" Basket B issues just drop off the radar screen. I stopped saying anything about hygiene (into Basket C)when ex-difficult child was at his worst (13.5-14). He did not get any dire diseases and I cannot IMAGINE having a discussion around these issues now. I know he is twenty, so maybe that does not seem like a good example, but I also have not thought about it for years...maybe tooth brushing was still a bit of a problem at 16, but the filling of a couple of cavities took care of the "last" hygiene issue. I hope I haven't written too much, but I think there is a very specific reasons why Greene tends to work with the children represented on these boards and other methods tend to fail. Best to you, Martie [/QUOTE]
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