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Behavior Mod. Therapy...Is it worth it? This lady is so good....
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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 488872" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>I dont think even this lady or Ross Greene would say behavior mod is NOT a good thing. I think they are saying that there are some people, who have differences in how they are wired and for a variety of reasons, who just do not respond to it for certain kinds of behaviors. And in fact they become worse if they are truly not able to do the behaviors that you are trying to reinforce or negatively consequence out of them. </p><p></p><p>One would have to be nuts to think there is no room for behavior modification EVER or even for most things. If you read her stuff you will see she is a huge proponent of behavior intervention.... She just says it needs to be done appropriately, that the environment must be considered, triggers need to be addressed, skills that are not there-but are required to be able to do the task, must be taught, etc. In her rat-runner article she says she tried every behavior sticker chart etc... and it just did not work for her kids. How many of us have said the same thing? Not like we didn't try! could I teach Q to do his laundry with stickers and rewards, yup. and it was easy. Can I get him to have a back and forth conversation appropriately, sticking to the topic and not saying naughty things using a sticker chart, a behavior chart, rewards for saying good words? NOPE been there done that, in multiple settings, and it does not work. punishing him for doing it does not work. </p><p></p><p>we need people like this to help us to teach skills and solve behavior problems in children who do not learn through traditional behavior modification. Not ANY behavior modification, just the traditional kind.</p><p></p><p>Clearly there are skills that can be taught nearly anyone using behavior modification methods. Most of us have tried traditional methods first. If they work, yipee!</p><p></p><p>If they dont? We keep banging our heads against the walls? They need the skills to be able to learn what is expected of them and to not teach those skills in a manner that the child can learn is just plain silly. Yet, it happens again and again and again. </p><p></p><p>As she says, it does not pass the acid test if...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is my take on it anyway..... I swear I wish it would work... wouldn't that be an easy life. I would be the first one to sign up for suspensions....hundreds of them a year, if it made a difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 488872, member: 12886"] I dont think even this lady or Ross Greene would say behavior mod is NOT a good thing. I think they are saying that there are some people, who have differences in how they are wired and for a variety of reasons, who just do not respond to it for certain kinds of behaviors. And in fact they become worse if they are truly not able to do the behaviors that you are trying to reinforce or negatively consequence out of them. One would have to be nuts to think there is no room for behavior modification EVER or even for most things. If you read her stuff you will see she is a huge proponent of behavior intervention.... She just says it needs to be done appropriately, that the environment must be considered, triggers need to be addressed, skills that are not there-but are required to be able to do the task, must be taught, etc. In her rat-runner article she says she tried every behavior sticker chart etc... and it just did not work for her kids. How many of us have said the same thing? Not like we didn't try! could I teach Q to do his laundry with stickers and rewards, yup. and it was easy. Can I get him to have a back and forth conversation appropriately, sticking to the topic and not saying naughty things using a sticker chart, a behavior chart, rewards for saying good words? NOPE been there done that, in multiple settings, and it does not work. punishing him for doing it does not work. we need people like this to help us to teach skills and solve behavior problems in children who do not learn through traditional behavior modification. Not ANY behavior modification, just the traditional kind. Clearly there are skills that can be taught nearly anyone using behavior modification methods. Most of us have tried traditional methods first. If they work, yipee! If they dont? We keep banging our heads against the walls? They need the skills to be able to learn what is expected of them and to not teach those skills in a manner that the child can learn is just plain silly. Yet, it happens again and again and again. As she says, it does not pass the acid test if... That is my take on it anyway..... I swear I wish it would work... wouldn't that be an easy life. I would be the first one to sign up for suspensions....hundreds of them a year, if it made a difference. [/QUOTE]
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