Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New profile posts
Latest activity
Internet Search
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Parent Support Forums
General Parenting
Can't take much more
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 291938" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>You have to be so very careful in hhow you question a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, too. Of course we don't know if he IS a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, but it sounds sufficiently similar, that you need to be very wary of the literal mind and the leading question.</p><p></p><p>An example - Wendy Lawson, who has written a book, "Life Behind Glass", was about 19 when a specialist asked her, "Do you her voices?"</p><p>She replied, "Of course I do! Doesn't everybody?"</p><p>On the basis of that she was incarcerated in a psychiatric hospital for some years.</p><p></p><p>She was finally diagnosed as NOT schizophrenic after all, but Asperger's. She says, "He asked a stupid quesiton. Ofcourse we hear voices; you don't SEE voices, do you?"</p><p></p><p>I've experienced the same literal-mindedness in my kids, even when you would tinnk they would be old enough to 'know' how to respond to colloqualisms. In difficult child 1, tis literal-mindedness led his therapists astray also. He was in the middle of an assessment, they gave him pen and paper and said, "We want to see how well you can write. write something for us. It can be anything - a story would be good. We just want to see how you write."</p><p></p><p>difficult child 1 thought he was being assessed on his handwriting, so wrote verbatim the chapter of the book he had just been reading (photographic memory). The psychologist said, "He is capable of writing a lovely story, well-written with few crossings-out or pauses. He's clearly capable of imaginative construction at a very high level." </p><p>On the basis of this, he was diganosed as definitely NOT Asperger's.</p><p></p><p>I also was impressed - I didn't realise until later what had happened. When I did, I rang them to tell them. I would have thought his literal interpretation of te question plus the information that the piece of writing was NOT original would have revised te diagnosis. It did not - they did not want to revisit anything (an overloaded clinic, they had made their pronouncement, it was too much trouble to even overturn it pending a repeat check).</p><p></p><p>WHat you report could have been hallucinations. Or it could have been a kid trying to describe how thoughts sound to him. I remember trying to analyse the sound of my own thoughts when I was younger. I even talked about it with my mother - if she had been at all informed of things like schizophrenia or bipolar it would have terrified her! But I distinctly remember trying to work out exactly how my inner voice sounded, and what the difference was between it and my 'outer' voice.</p><p>Yes, I suspect there are Aspie traits in me also, except that I CAN write, I have always had a very creative and vivid imagination. But then - it does present very differently in females! I'm also a scientist and my mind just works in that analytical way. It always has and it was very obvious when I was very young. I also have memories that are very vivid that go waaaay back, I'm finding those memories very enlightening now especially WRT the kids.</p><p></p><p>So go gently. If things are OK now, then it sounds like medications are a major suspect.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad he's doing well on Concerta. My boys can't take it, but they do well on dexamphetamine (in SR form).</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 291938, member: 1991"] You have to be so very careful in hhow you question a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, too. Of course we don't know if he IS a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, but it sounds sufficiently similar, that you need to be very wary of the literal mind and the leading question. An example - Wendy Lawson, who has written a book, "Life Behind Glass", was about 19 when a specialist asked her, "Do you her voices?" She replied, "Of course I do! Doesn't everybody?" On the basis of that she was incarcerated in a psychiatric hospital for some years. She was finally diagnosed as NOT schizophrenic after all, but Asperger's. She says, "He asked a stupid quesiton. Ofcourse we hear voices; you don't SEE voices, do you?" I've experienced the same literal-mindedness in my kids, even when you would tinnk they would be old enough to 'know' how to respond to colloqualisms. In difficult child 1, tis literal-mindedness led his therapists astray also. He was in the middle of an assessment, they gave him pen and paper and said, "We want to see how well you can write. write something for us. It can be anything - a story would be good. We just want to see how you write." difficult child 1 thought he was being assessed on his handwriting, so wrote verbatim the chapter of the book he had just been reading (photographic memory). The psychologist said, "He is capable of writing a lovely story, well-written with few crossings-out or pauses. He's clearly capable of imaginative construction at a very high level." On the basis of this, he was diganosed as definitely NOT Asperger's. I also was impressed - I didn't realise until later what had happened. When I did, I rang them to tell them. I would have thought his literal interpretation of te question plus the information that the piece of writing was NOT original would have revised te diagnosis. It did not - they did not want to revisit anything (an overloaded clinic, they had made their pronouncement, it was too much trouble to even overturn it pending a repeat check). WHat you report could have been hallucinations. Or it could have been a kid trying to describe how thoughts sound to him. I remember trying to analyse the sound of my own thoughts when I was younger. I even talked about it with my mother - if she had been at all informed of things like schizophrenia or bipolar it would have terrified her! But I distinctly remember trying to work out exactly how my inner voice sounded, and what the difference was between it and my 'outer' voice. Yes, I suspect there are Aspie traits in me also, except that I CAN write, I have always had a very creative and vivid imagination. But then - it does present very differently in females! I'm also a scientist and my mind just works in that analytical way. It always has and it was very obvious when I was very young. I also have memories that are very vivid that go waaaay back, I'm finding those memories very enlightening now especially WRT the kids. So go gently. If things are OK now, then it sounds like medications are a major suspect. I'm glad he's doing well on Concerta. My boys can't take it, but they do well on dexamphetamine (in SR form). Marg [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Parent Support Forums
General Parenting
Can't take much more
Top