dreamer
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this seems to be a hot topic lately.....
I am sorry but, my webtv will not access the website I know has this article for Fridays edition....so I cannot go to the website and get an url for you---(I saw the article in a paper edition, not online) but I know at www.northwestherald.com
there is an article titled Young Children Get Adult Labels Zero-tolerance spikes elementary sexual-harassment cases
Personally I find the trend disturbing. I know when easy child was 3 and was in homebound Head Start here, one day her female teacher was sitting beside easy child in our kitchen restaurant booth working, and teachers attention wandered and teacher was daydreaming, looking in my backyard......so little 3 yr old easy child placed her tiny toddler hand on teachers knee, gave her hand on teachers nylon cladknee a little shake, in an effort to draw teachers attention back to task at hand. (I was sitting right there) Later that day, a CPS worker showed up at our door to investigate a "inappropraite sex act" my easy child "displayed" to her Headstart teacher! My jaw dropped open. what in the world? Turns out her teacher felt as if this was a sex act, and quite inappropriate? I told CPS worker flat out I thought something MUST be wrong with the teacher if she mistook THAT for a sex act. Thank goodness CPS agreed with ME< but, Headstart dropped easy child AND difficult child from Headstart program over it. :-(
Seriously, if a small childs touch to an adults knee to draw attention back to task at hand is a sex act, well, then I do think that adult has a serious sex problem. And truly, I did also decide at that time, if that is how HeadStart viewed it, then they had too much sex on the brain for MY comfort and I was just as happy to not have them involved with MY kids.
More recently- a couple years ago----I personally know of 2 11 yr old boys and a 12 yr old girl. The girl said "lets play truth or dare" the boys shrugged in consent. Turns out THAT is considered a sex offense on boys part by local police. The BOYS were arrested and booked for a sex crime with an added "obstruction of justice" charge becuz the girl LOL and the boys told her to shush and stop LOL or they would get caught. When I heard of this story, I flat out told police I thought they had taken this too far and I questioned THEIR wisdom in the handling of the matter. Yes, it may be a parental discipline issue, but, I certainly thought the police themself were makeing it more into a sex crime than what it was, and I asked the police if they got their jollies chargeing children with sex offenses? (Of course I should have used more restraint and better judgement for me saying that got ME investigated- police also told ME I was not taking a crime against females seriously enough and since I myself am female, they found it to be a problem)
BUT, I DO have to wonder why adults are finding sex under every stone? The very same 3 children had played together since toddlerhood and the police told me it is one thing for 3 yr olds to climb around together at age 3 but by age 8 or so, any physical contact between them is "sexual" and while preschoolers might tell each other to "be quiet" at age 9 or 10, it is criminal. ?????? I told police that maybe then people better STOP permitting toddlers to touch each other or talking to each other becuz if the kids behave that way together as young children and it is OK, what is the BEST way to tell them whoa, now you must stop, becuz now it is sex? And I also asked what specifically IS the magical age where it is no longer simply JUST "play" and now a "crime"
Yes, I DO understand there ARE some young kids who DO have this type of problem.......but.......I think authorities are carrying it a bit too far. ANd I am concerned if they see sex under every stone it may not be the children wit the problem, but maybe rather it is the authorities?
Well, in any event, I know we are each entitled to our own opinion.......and no- my point is not to argue that out.....but- the article WAS interesting, anyway, no matter what your opinions are on the topic. And I think originally the article might have come from The Washington Post and was done by Brigid Schulte.
I am sorry but, my webtv will not access the website I know has this article for Fridays edition....so I cannot go to the website and get an url for you---(I saw the article in a paper edition, not online) but I know at www.northwestherald.com
there is an article titled Young Children Get Adult Labels Zero-tolerance spikes elementary sexual-harassment cases
Personally I find the trend disturbing. I know when easy child was 3 and was in homebound Head Start here, one day her female teacher was sitting beside easy child in our kitchen restaurant booth working, and teachers attention wandered and teacher was daydreaming, looking in my backyard......so little 3 yr old easy child placed her tiny toddler hand on teachers knee, gave her hand on teachers nylon cladknee a little shake, in an effort to draw teachers attention back to task at hand. (I was sitting right there) Later that day, a CPS worker showed up at our door to investigate a "inappropraite sex act" my easy child "displayed" to her Headstart teacher! My jaw dropped open. what in the world? Turns out her teacher felt as if this was a sex act, and quite inappropriate? I told CPS worker flat out I thought something MUST be wrong with the teacher if she mistook THAT for a sex act. Thank goodness CPS agreed with ME< but, Headstart dropped easy child AND difficult child from Headstart program over it. :-(
Seriously, if a small childs touch to an adults knee to draw attention back to task at hand is a sex act, well, then I do think that adult has a serious sex problem. And truly, I did also decide at that time, if that is how HeadStart viewed it, then they had too much sex on the brain for MY comfort and I was just as happy to not have them involved with MY kids.
More recently- a couple years ago----I personally know of 2 11 yr old boys and a 12 yr old girl. The girl said "lets play truth or dare" the boys shrugged in consent. Turns out THAT is considered a sex offense on boys part by local police. The BOYS were arrested and booked for a sex crime with an added "obstruction of justice" charge becuz the girl LOL and the boys told her to shush and stop LOL or they would get caught. When I heard of this story, I flat out told police I thought they had taken this too far and I questioned THEIR wisdom in the handling of the matter. Yes, it may be a parental discipline issue, but, I certainly thought the police themself were makeing it more into a sex crime than what it was, and I asked the police if they got their jollies chargeing children with sex offenses? (Of course I should have used more restraint and better judgement for me saying that got ME investigated- police also told ME I was not taking a crime against females seriously enough and since I myself am female, they found it to be a problem)
BUT, I DO have to wonder why adults are finding sex under every stone? The very same 3 children had played together since toddlerhood and the police told me it is one thing for 3 yr olds to climb around together at age 3 but by age 8 or so, any physical contact between them is "sexual" and while preschoolers might tell each other to "be quiet" at age 9 or 10, it is criminal. ?????? I told police that maybe then people better STOP permitting toddlers to touch each other or talking to each other becuz if the kids behave that way together as young children and it is OK, what is the BEST way to tell them whoa, now you must stop, becuz now it is sex? And I also asked what specifically IS the magical age where it is no longer simply JUST "play" and now a "crime"
Yes, I DO understand there ARE some young kids who DO have this type of problem.......but.......I think authorities are carrying it a bit too far. ANd I am concerned if they see sex under every stone it may not be the children wit the problem, but maybe rather it is the authorities?
Well, in any event, I know we are each entitled to our own opinion.......and no- my point is not to argue that out.....but- the article WAS interesting, anyway, no matter what your opinions are on the topic. And I think originally the article might have come from The Washington Post and was done by Brigid Schulte.