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<blockquote data-quote="Rotsne" data-source="post: 222247" data-attributes="member: 6326"><p>Why hide the facts from her?</p><p></p><p>I know that a teen in Florida is jailed because it is claimed that she let some of her friends kill her mother because she discovered that she was about to enter a feared lockdown (at least that's the impression among the teens living in the area. They all comply because they wont go there. Sometime I could use to look over to such a neighbor when domestic problems reaches the ceiling).</p><p></p><p>But really. How many examples are there of that?</p><p></p><p>But you are mentioning friends. It brings me to believe that there is a community based problem there. Somehow it seems unfair that you all have to pay a lot of money to save your teen, when the problem is in the community now and will be in the community once your daughter is released from her "bubble".</p><p></p><p>compassion: Don't you know the parents of these other teens? Are they not all struggling with the same issues - worried sick about their offspring? Could you with the help of the police try to reach out to them?</p><p></p><p>I have to introduce a concept we have here in Denmark - It is called SSP. It stands for School-Social security-Police. Representatives from each of these departments meats and discuss both general issues and single cases, so they don't need to waste tax-payers money on incarceration once things turn really bad.</p><p></p><p>During the summer holidays we have groups of youth drinking alcohol on the empty school campuses. Some of them are not even confirmed - under 15 (Here youth are given alcohol by their parents as part as part of the confirmation ritual). Of course they are reported to the police and they are given some meat to eat by the police officers and the social services informed. They could have chosen to arrest them as it is done in other cultures but then the would have hidden their activities and it would be more costly. The DSS did their work and when the school started in august, the problem was solved. It is a about dialogue.</p><p></p><p>But parents cannot solve it alone. Nor is it possible for the police, schools or even DSS to do it alone.</p><p></p><p>In some cultures the speaking is that it takes a community to raise a child. It could be true in this case also.</p><p></p><p>I cannot think of a parent who want to let her off-springs becomes addicts or criminals, but some are on the edge of breaking down themselves and have to let go.</p><p></p><p>There should be something like support groups for parents of teens with problems in the community in every town - not only message boards like this (I am grateful that we have here). There should also be volunteer networks like our nightowls - people the youth can talk to without being judged regardless of the fact that they are drunk.</p><p></p><p>But it has to start someplace. It could be you who wants to save 12,000 dollars by reaching out to these other parents so you can join forces and get all the girls off the streets.</p><p></p><p>A final thing I have learned is that youth listen to peers rather than adults. I am advocating for introduction of Peer courts in my county. While we see a lot of programs about youth in TV and media, the reality is that most are doing OK. What if the good kids are allowed to weight in when judging youths breaking the laws? Surveys show that the word of peers means a lot more to the single teenager than being put in an ordinary court. In fact many Residential Treatment Center (RTC)'s use the same kind of method. They allow the peers to judge rule violations.</p><p></p><p>As stated above. I believe in putting facts on the table in the open and honestly present your options to your child way before putting them into action. If she choose to run, she run anyway if possible from the Residential Treatment Center (RTC). I would let the numbers to both the Residential Treatment Center (RTC), the myspace group of former clients of the specific Residential Treatment Center (RTC) and even message boards with critical message boards with threads about this Residential Treatment Center (RTC) hang in the kitchen. Let her talk to former clients. She will know that she has no choice but to change if she wants to continue to watch TV, use a computer and hang out with a positive peer group in the community - things all teens take for granted until they have tried to miss them.</p><p></p><p>You can save those 12,000 per month by serving her the facts in her face.</p><p></p><p>I pray for you and urge you to have the strength to confront her once and for all. If you pm me, I can find some "scared straight" stories for her to read. All too many teens believe that private Residential Treatment Center (RTC) are just stories and they are empty threats. (((hugs)))</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rotsne, post: 222247, member: 6326"] Why hide the facts from her? I know that a teen in Florida is jailed because it is claimed that she let some of her friends kill her mother because she discovered that she was about to enter a feared lockdown (at least that's the impression among the teens living in the area. They all comply because they wont go there. Sometime I could use to look over to such a neighbor when domestic problems reaches the ceiling). But really. How many examples are there of that? But you are mentioning friends. It brings me to believe that there is a community based problem there. Somehow it seems unfair that you all have to pay a lot of money to save your teen, when the problem is in the community now and will be in the community once your daughter is released from her "bubble". compassion: Don't you know the parents of these other teens? Are they not all struggling with the same issues - worried sick about their offspring? Could you with the help of the police try to reach out to them? I have to introduce a concept we have here in Denmark - It is called SSP. It stands for School-Social security-Police. Representatives from each of these departments meats and discuss both general issues and single cases, so they don't need to waste tax-payers money on incarceration once things turn really bad. During the summer holidays we have groups of youth drinking alcohol on the empty school campuses. Some of them are not even confirmed - under 15 (Here youth are given alcohol by their parents as part as part of the confirmation ritual). Of course they are reported to the police and they are given some meat to eat by the police officers and the social services informed. They could have chosen to arrest them as it is done in other cultures but then the would have hidden their activities and it would be more costly. The DSS did their work and when the school started in august, the problem was solved. It is a about dialogue. But parents cannot solve it alone. Nor is it possible for the police, schools or even DSS to do it alone. In some cultures the speaking is that it takes a community to raise a child. It could be true in this case also. I cannot think of a parent who want to let her off-springs becomes addicts or criminals, but some are on the edge of breaking down themselves and have to let go. There should be something like support groups for parents of teens with problems in the community in every town - not only message boards like this (I am grateful that we have here). There should also be volunteer networks like our nightowls - people the youth can talk to without being judged regardless of the fact that they are drunk. But it has to start someplace. It could be you who wants to save 12,000 dollars by reaching out to these other parents so you can join forces and get all the girls off the streets. A final thing I have learned is that youth listen to peers rather than adults. I am advocating for introduction of Peer courts in my county. While we see a lot of programs about youth in TV and media, the reality is that most are doing OK. What if the good kids are allowed to weight in when judging youths breaking the laws? Surveys show that the word of peers means a lot more to the single teenager than being put in an ordinary court. In fact many Residential Treatment Center (RTC)'s use the same kind of method. They allow the peers to judge rule violations. As stated above. I believe in putting facts on the table in the open and honestly present your options to your child way before putting them into action. If she choose to run, she run anyway if possible from the Residential Treatment Center (RTC). I would let the numbers to both the Residential Treatment Center (RTC), the myspace group of former clients of the specific Residential Treatment Center (RTC) and even message boards with critical message boards with threads about this Residential Treatment Center (RTC) hang in the kitchen. Let her talk to former clients. She will know that she has no choice but to change if she wants to continue to watch TV, use a computer and hang out with a positive peer group in the community - things all teens take for granted until they have tried to miss them. You can save those 12,000 per month by serving her the facts in her face. I pray for you and urge you to have the strength to confront her once and for all. If you pm me, I can find some "scared straight" stories for her to read. All too many teens believe that private Residential Treatment Center (RTC) are just stories and they are empty threats. (((hugs))) [/QUOTE]
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