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<blockquote data-quote="Nancy" data-source="post: 584111" data-attributes="member: 59"><p>Sober houses are not lockdown facilities. They are places to live usually run by former addicts/alcoholics in which the resident is slowly acclimated back into society while at the same time learning how to live a sober lifestyle. They are not for profit, they charge the minimunm to take care of rent, utilities, food and meetings/group expenses. You can walk out any time you want, and some do. You can also be kicked out for not following the rules or using. Depending on the director they can be very restrictive to quite lax. I belong to a support group that is connected to one of the best men's halfway houses in the area. They have wonderful support from the community. Some residents are court ordered. They go in kicking and screaming. Some leave and then the courts follow through with whatever sentence they would have gotten. Some get clean even though they are ordered there. There are no bars to keep them in, other then the consequences they face upon leaving. Some of the local professionals in the city have gone thorugh this place and come back to talk with and support the guys on a regular basis.</p><p></p><p>The true halfway houses, the more restrictive living environment before you step down to a regular sober house, do not want you to have a job when you first enter because many are either coming off the street and this is their only treatment or they are coming from short term treatment centers. You can't learn how to live sober until you are sober and that doesn't happen in 30 or 60 days.</p><p></p><p>In our support group we have many men recovering addicts who come to our meetings and tell us ver and over that they were in some of the most expensive treatment facilities around until they entered the halfway house with other addicts and wanted to change and had the support of each other. One person told us how he was in one of the most exclusive treatment centers in Boca Raton for 9 months and he used as soon as he got out. It wasn't until he came here to the halfway house that he got it.</p><p></p><p>The halfway house my daughter was in is an old nuns convent connected to one of our catholic churches. It housed 24 women and they truly lived sober including shopping for their groceries and cooking for all the women. They were required to volunteer in the community. They believe that you cannot hold a job and devote yourself to the program and to learning how to make a sober support group at the same time. The rent was reasonable because it is non profit. Most of these facilites are in old factories or businesses in the city that have been abandoned and donated. They receive furniture and appliances as donations. I would be very leary of a place that charged a high rent. But then the cost of living here is much more reasonable than other cities. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps there is a larger distinction between halfway houses and sober houses then I originally described. Sober houses are usually a normal house where only 4-6 people can live. The residents there must have a job and pay thier own expenses because they are deemed ready to live and interact in society without the same restrictions of the halfway house.</p><p></p><p>AA was formed here in our area by Dr. Bob and Bill W. I believe we have some of the best facilites for recovery anywhere around, but not the most expensive ones. My difficult child was in a treatment facility in our city that cost us $25,000 out of pocket for 60 days. She found a way to break every rule in the place, had sexual contact with other residents, male and female, never did commit to recovery and looked for any way out. Fortunately she did not use while in there but most of the other residents did. It is very well thought of in the medical community but ask those in halfway/sober houses and they will tell you it was a farce.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nancy, post: 584111, member: 59"] Sober houses are not lockdown facilities. They are places to live usually run by former addicts/alcoholics in which the resident is slowly acclimated back into society while at the same time learning how to live a sober lifestyle. They are not for profit, they charge the minimunm to take care of rent, utilities, food and meetings/group expenses. You can walk out any time you want, and some do. You can also be kicked out for not following the rules or using. Depending on the director they can be very restrictive to quite lax. I belong to a support group that is connected to one of the best men's halfway houses in the area. They have wonderful support from the community. Some residents are court ordered. They go in kicking and screaming. Some leave and then the courts follow through with whatever sentence they would have gotten. Some get clean even though they are ordered there. There are no bars to keep them in, other then the consequences they face upon leaving. Some of the local professionals in the city have gone thorugh this place and come back to talk with and support the guys on a regular basis. The true halfway houses, the more restrictive living environment before you step down to a regular sober house, do not want you to have a job when you first enter because many are either coming off the street and this is their only treatment or they are coming from short term treatment centers. You can't learn how to live sober until you are sober and that doesn't happen in 30 or 60 days. In our support group we have many men recovering addicts who come to our meetings and tell us ver and over that they were in some of the most expensive treatment facilities around until they entered the halfway house with other addicts and wanted to change and had the support of each other. One person told us how he was in one of the most exclusive treatment centers in Boca Raton for 9 months and he used as soon as he got out. It wasn't until he came here to the halfway house that he got it. The halfway house my daughter was in is an old nuns convent connected to one of our catholic churches. It housed 24 women and they truly lived sober including shopping for their groceries and cooking for all the women. They were required to volunteer in the community. They believe that you cannot hold a job and devote yourself to the program and to learning how to make a sober support group at the same time. The rent was reasonable because it is non profit. Most of these facilites are in old factories or businesses in the city that have been abandoned and donated. They receive furniture and appliances as donations. I would be very leary of a place that charged a high rent. But then the cost of living here is much more reasonable than other cities. Perhaps there is a larger distinction between halfway houses and sober houses then I originally described. Sober houses are usually a normal house where only 4-6 people can live. The residents there must have a job and pay thier own expenses because they are deemed ready to live and interact in society without the same restrictions of the halfway house. AA was formed here in our area by Dr. Bob and Bill W. I believe we have some of the best facilites for recovery anywhere around, but not the most expensive ones. My difficult child was in a treatment facility in our city that cost us $25,000 out of pocket for 60 days. She found a way to break every rule in the place, had sexual contact with other residents, male and female, never did commit to recovery and looked for any way out. Fortunately she did not use while in there but most of the other residents did. It is very well thought of in the medical community but ask those in halfway/sober houses and they will tell you it was a farce. [/QUOTE]
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