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<blockquote data-quote="exhausted" data-source="post: 440382" data-attributes="member: 11001"><p>Hello and welcome! I agree with Suzie and 12 step meetings. We have never been able to do 7 days but they have helped our family. The big thing we learned was not to enable. I can tell you it is often a fine line between helping and enabling.( I'm struggling with that every day) I'm really glad that they have at least ordered the evaluation. In our state kids go if parents say they go so I have never been through a committment process. We are now on our second Residential Treatment Center (RTC). The first was private pay-we used all our funds on 18 months of treatment which ended up making things worse. We thought it was marijuana and depression. We soon found out is molestation and rapes as the issue-the pot was really not the addiction-her sexual acting out as a result the problem. So, I don't regret what we did. We searched for another program that would help her-she's a runner so we had to have another Residential Treatment Center (RTC). The only all girls program with the kind of therapy we needed was a state program. The only way in was through court. We reported everything-20 run aways, many truancies, bottle pop bongs, missing money. We finially got her in. It was It was about 5 months of pure hell inbetween her first program and getting a bed at Residential Treatment Center (RTC). So I hear you on getting help! We even had to give custody to the state to get this help.My cautions are: Know the programs and keep tabs. We have had many instances of abuse in the state system. It gets sticky and ugly when you have to advocate for your kid (there are so many posts on this in all the forums) 2. Make sure Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is really what is needed. We couldn't keep her safe with 24 hour supervision-she ran from school so we had to do it. If you are sure he needs this level of care-give the judge your list of safety concerns and why Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is best-safety will be the reason a judge chooses this. In most states they can't order a place (that is PO or JJS work) they can only order level of care (ie out patient,day-treatment, Residential Treatment Center (RTC)) It's so hard because there are not enough services for mental health. Even private pay and insurance doesn't get you in faster. OUr culture still doesn't really except that we have so many kids with mental health issues. I've seen figures that say 70% of juvenile court kids are mentally ill and only 3% have ever had any mental health services of any kind. You can't treat a cold with antibiotics-so why do we keep treating mental illnesses (which often accompany substance abuse), with jail time. Judges still don't understand-I could list the ignorant things our judge has said to us over the last months-he just isn't educated and he, like many others see it as an "excuse" for their behavior. Our state now has a mental health court for teens which will be transfered to when my daughter finishes Residential Treatment Center (RTC). NAMI got that going here-it's got a ............waiting list as everything else has!Keep us posted and be strong with the judge-hand that list of why you need your boy in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) to the bailiff as you go in (we found that's the best). Your doing a good job for your son!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="exhausted, post: 440382, member: 11001"] Hello and welcome! I agree with Suzie and 12 step meetings. We have never been able to do 7 days but they have helped our family. The big thing we learned was not to enable. I can tell you it is often a fine line between helping and enabling.( I'm struggling with that every day) I'm really glad that they have at least ordered the evaluation. In our state kids go if parents say they go so I have never been through a committment process. We are now on our second Residential Treatment Center (RTC). The first was private pay-we used all our funds on 18 months of treatment which ended up making things worse. We thought it was marijuana and depression. We soon found out is molestation and rapes as the issue-the pot was really not the addiction-her sexual acting out as a result the problem. So, I don't regret what we did. We searched for another program that would help her-she's a runner so we had to have another Residential Treatment Center (RTC). The only all girls program with the kind of therapy we needed was a state program. The only way in was through court. We reported everything-20 run aways, many truancies, bottle pop bongs, missing money. We finially got her in. It was It was about 5 months of pure hell inbetween her first program and getting a bed at Residential Treatment Center (RTC). So I hear you on getting help! We even had to give custody to the state to get this help.My cautions are: Know the programs and keep tabs. We have had many instances of abuse in the state system. It gets sticky and ugly when you have to advocate for your kid (there are so many posts on this in all the forums) 2. Make sure Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is really what is needed. We couldn't keep her safe with 24 hour supervision-she ran from school so we had to do it. If you are sure he needs this level of care-give the judge your list of safety concerns and why Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is best-safety will be the reason a judge chooses this. In most states they can't order a place (that is PO or JJS work) they can only order level of care (ie out patient,day-treatment, Residential Treatment Center (RTC)) It's so hard because there are not enough services for mental health. Even private pay and insurance doesn't get you in faster. OUr culture still doesn't really except that we have so many kids with mental health issues. I've seen figures that say 70% of juvenile court kids are mentally ill and only 3% have ever had any mental health services of any kind. You can't treat a cold with antibiotics-so why do we keep treating mental illnesses (which often accompany substance abuse), with jail time. Judges still don't understand-I could list the ignorant things our judge has said to us over the last months-he just isn't educated and he, like many others see it as an "excuse" for their behavior. Our state now has a mental health court for teens which will be transfered to when my daughter finishes Residential Treatment Center (RTC). NAMI got that going here-it's got a ............waiting list as everything else has!Keep us posted and be strong with the judge-hand that list of why you need your boy in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) to the bailiff as you go in (we found that's the best). Your doing a good job for your son! [/QUOTE]
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