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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 523139" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I do NOT think this is such a wonderful idea. he is NOT going to walk that far. How much does he like work? It is hard work to walk that far, and your difficult child didn't even want to walk a mile or two to a job, did he? He is NOT saying he will BIKE across the country, is he? Why not? Probably because he will hitchhike instead of walk. I know you can't stop him, but that is a very dangerous thing to do. It also is not easy, and he will be totally at the mercy of anyone who wants to do something to him, and he will probably be picked up by the cops a few times as hitchhiking is illegal and if he has anything illegal than he will be in some strange area calling you for help because who wants to be stuck in a jail in some small town in the middle of nowhere? </p><p></p><p>Right now he knows you will not help him. You know where he is, that it is warm enough that he is not in danger if he is out in the elements because the weather isn't that cold. He knows where the shelter is, where treatment for his drug problem is, and where the dangerous areas are. He will get a ride to somewhere, and then he will be stranded, will call you with some illness or injury or no food and want you to rescue him by sending cash or paying for a hotel room over the phone or internet. Or he will call from jail because he got picked up and they are suspecting him of stealing because he was wandering around and someone got robbed at that time and since he has no ties to the area, he is going to have to sit in jail and he will tell you a horror story which you cannot verify. I am not saying he would be the thief or not, just that he would get blamed and have NO way to prove it wasn't him. I don't care about innocent until proven guilty, if you are a bum you still have to prove you didn't do it in a lot of places and situations. It is just that ugly thing called reality. If he gets charges in an area, he won't stay the weeks until a court date, so he would likely later end up with a handful of tickets/charges in various areas that he would want/need your help and cash to help fix. </p><p></p><p>This is a way to get you to bring him home and to get you to send him stuff. If he is living on a beach with no address, how would you send him stuff? do think this is a way to not get treatment, and there is no way he is going to endure withdrawals in the middle of a walk across a long distance, so he would have to find suppliers for the drugs and the $ to buy the alcohol as he walks. This will be HARD and he will end up stealing at least the alcohol from a gas station somewhere. </p><p></p><p>You can't stop him, but I would not support this. You have told him you won't support anything except treatment, and I think you should stick to that. This means NOT sending him a backpack, sleeping bag or ANYTHING else to make his life easier or this trek possible. It is NOT a good idea and he is in NO WAY in shape to take on such a trek. I know people who have walked across large parts of the country or other countries. They didn't do it with an addiction - several of them worked hard to kick their addcition because they KNEW it would leave them in no physical shape to make the trip and it would put them in HUGE amounts of danger as they tried to get their "fix". They also did NOT go penniless or close to it. They saved up until they had enough money to afford the trip and they looked up places to work and to stay cheaply along the way so that they could stay in a hostel or shelter or cheap hotel every so often.</p><p></p><p>How experienced an outdoorsman is your difficult child? Does he have more than the wilderness program experience? THe people I knwo who were successful at this had WAY more experience and had spent a LONG time making preparations. The people who just decided to do it and tried to leave? Ended up stranded, in trouble, sick, and in need of a LOT of help and cold, hard cash to rescue them from their stupidity. And yes, two of the people I know hwo got stranded DID have wilderness program experience but it is WAY different than navigating your way across the country. </p><p></p><p>I am sorry to be such a Grinch about this, but this is not a good idea. PLEASE do not support ANYTHING other than treatment for your son. I know t is hard, and you want to believe that he could do this. He will be a HUGE target out there and the addiction makes him SO vulnerable. If he was high/drunk out on a highway walking, what would keep him from wandering into traffic or let him protect himself from soemone who wants to hurt him? he would be so out of it he couldn't even fght back much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 523139, member: 1233"] I do NOT think this is such a wonderful idea. he is NOT going to walk that far. How much does he like work? It is hard work to walk that far, and your difficult child didn't even want to walk a mile or two to a job, did he? He is NOT saying he will BIKE across the country, is he? Why not? Probably because he will hitchhike instead of walk. I know you can't stop him, but that is a very dangerous thing to do. It also is not easy, and he will be totally at the mercy of anyone who wants to do something to him, and he will probably be picked up by the cops a few times as hitchhiking is illegal and if he has anything illegal than he will be in some strange area calling you for help because who wants to be stuck in a jail in some small town in the middle of nowhere? Right now he knows you will not help him. You know where he is, that it is warm enough that he is not in danger if he is out in the elements because the weather isn't that cold. He knows where the shelter is, where treatment for his drug problem is, and where the dangerous areas are. He will get a ride to somewhere, and then he will be stranded, will call you with some illness or injury or no food and want you to rescue him by sending cash or paying for a hotel room over the phone or internet. Or he will call from jail because he got picked up and they are suspecting him of stealing because he was wandering around and someone got robbed at that time and since he has no ties to the area, he is going to have to sit in jail and he will tell you a horror story which you cannot verify. I am not saying he would be the thief or not, just that he would get blamed and have NO way to prove it wasn't him. I don't care about innocent until proven guilty, if you are a bum you still have to prove you didn't do it in a lot of places and situations. It is just that ugly thing called reality. If he gets charges in an area, he won't stay the weeks until a court date, so he would likely later end up with a handful of tickets/charges in various areas that he would want/need your help and cash to help fix. This is a way to get you to bring him home and to get you to send him stuff. If he is living on a beach with no address, how would you send him stuff? do think this is a way to not get treatment, and there is no way he is going to endure withdrawals in the middle of a walk across a long distance, so he would have to find suppliers for the drugs and the $ to buy the alcohol as he walks. This will be HARD and he will end up stealing at least the alcohol from a gas station somewhere. You can't stop him, but I would not support this. You have told him you won't support anything except treatment, and I think you should stick to that. This means NOT sending him a backpack, sleeping bag or ANYTHING else to make his life easier or this trek possible. It is NOT a good idea and he is in NO WAY in shape to take on such a trek. I know people who have walked across large parts of the country or other countries. They didn't do it with an addiction - several of them worked hard to kick their addcition because they KNEW it would leave them in no physical shape to make the trip and it would put them in HUGE amounts of danger as they tried to get their "fix". They also did NOT go penniless or close to it. They saved up until they had enough money to afford the trip and they looked up places to work and to stay cheaply along the way so that they could stay in a hostel or shelter or cheap hotel every so often. How experienced an outdoorsman is your difficult child? Does he have more than the wilderness program experience? THe people I knwo who were successful at this had WAY more experience and had spent a LONG time making preparations. The people who just decided to do it and tried to leave? Ended up stranded, in trouble, sick, and in need of a LOT of help and cold, hard cash to rescue them from their stupidity. And yes, two of the people I know hwo got stranded DID have wilderness program experience but it is WAY different than navigating your way across the country. I am sorry to be such a Grinch about this, but this is not a good idea. PLEASE do not support ANYTHING other than treatment for your son. I know t is hard, and you want to believe that he could do this. He will be a HUGE target out there and the addiction makes him SO vulnerable. If he was high/drunk out on a highway walking, what would keep him from wandering into traffic or let him protect himself from soemone who wants to hurt him? he would be so out of it he couldn't even fght back much. [/QUOTE]
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