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<blockquote data-quote="keista" data-source="post: 429453" data-attributes="member: 11965"><p><strong>Thanks so much everyone! </strong>. I had more of her background written out, but it ended up ridiculously LONG so I cut it. In a nutshell:</p><p></p><p>At 8yo started Prozac. Prozac was no good. Within a month she became more agitaed even though actual depression symptoms had eased. A few upped doses and arguments with psychiatrist later, we changed docs and put her on Zoloft. Side effect of fatigue. She was just too tired to feel or do anything. Switched to Wellbutrin. Moods seemed better, no agitation or 'tantrums' psychiatrist leaving practice so we switch again. Moods/depression seems to be stable for some time but she still gets anxious and continues to respond inappropriately to anxiety triggers - essentially she "freaks out" It's not a tantrum or a rage, but there is screaming, but all just in fear, Like what are you afraid of? Snakes, mice, spiders? That scream you let out when you see one of those, but also more complicated. OK, eg: Leaches are in the water on the shoreline. She's PETRIFIED of leaches. But she wants to be in the water. There are boogie boards she can use to float in the deep water with the big kids. EVERYONE assures her that there are no leaches in the deep water. She goes out on a board and is happy. Boys will be boys, and she gets knocked off her board. Starts screaming bloody murder, 3 dads instantly jump in to save her thinking maybe she got bit by a snake or something. Get her to shore, get her calm, no more water. Lesson learned - NOT Next day she wants to be right back out there. Try talking her out of it, 'casuse she might get knocked off again, yadda, yadda, yadda "No mom, I'm fine. It'll be alright" OK, Mom, gotta 'let go' UHG it all happens again.</p><p>Anyway, after these stories, the psychiatrist added Paxil 10mg It was Sept 2010. Worked like a charm! She was less anxious about everything, anxiety with her peers seemed to completely disappear. November she had one depressive episode 2-3 hr duration. She's full on into puberty, so I start tracking to see if it will be a monthly thing possibly indicating menstruation starting soon. Dec one episode, Jan 2 episodes.And now we're caught up to what I wrote above</p><p></p><p>I've reported all of this to psychiatrist. She did mention that if the depressive episodes get more frequent or severe, we will have to consider inpatient treatment. I CAN deal with that thought, BUT (insert Mom anxiety here) Truly, at the height (Low?) of her depressive episodes, I hold her in my arms to comfort her, and ultimately she pulls herself out of it enough to go to sleep and be fine the next day. So if I "send her away" when she feels the least loved.....oh just seems so counter intuitive. She's never tried to hurt herself, not even really threatened, just wishing and dreaming for now. If it does come down to real crisis, I will admit her. Unfortunately, the children's psychiatric hospital is almost an hour away, so going there during an episode probably won't work, and also ads to the mom anxiety of admitting her "too soon"</p><p></p><p><strong>Susiestar</strong>, No, I did not know there was a protocol. All the research I've done only yields 2 medications FDA approved for kids for depression, and just a handful more for BiPolar (BP) and anxiety. Also I thought Abilify WAS a mood stabilizer. That's what my psychiatrist calls it. Since I have the "good" insurance plan for her now including a registered nurse as her caseworker, I will be exploring more doctors and evaluations and options.</p><p></p><p>I have the battery for my camera charging right now. Haven't used it since I first tried it out since it didn't come with editing software, and then what's the point, but for these purposes, i don't need to edit anything.</p><p></p><p><strong>MWM</strong>, sorry about your daughter. Mine was on Prozac too many months too long. The psychiatrist at the time kept dismissing all her NEW symptoms as ODD, and my parenting needed to be tweaked, and maybe I should come to his workshops, by the way there's a $50 registration fee for each one. Ironic thing is that I have in the past considered that she was ODD - just not so sever a degree as the stories I read online. But I also knew that I hadn't considered it as a diagnosis for her for a whole year before she started on the Prozac.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rainbird</strong> Yeah, it does almost sound like multiple personality, but I'm 99.9% sure it is not. If it turns out to be, it would certainly be one for the record books since she hasn't had any kind of serious trauma to trigger it. I've learned never to say never, though.</p><p></p><p><strong>Hound dog</strong> Thanks for the support. While reading your post I started thinking about what I had written of the day DD1 kept "flipping" around. I also realized that that day, she and I kept walking around, and as always when we're walking, my arm goes around her, then drops away to do stuff, then the arm is around her again. If I'm right about those hugs "getting her out", then it's feasible that I was actually flipping her switch that day. Hmmmmm </p><p></p><p>by the way, yes I'm always hugging on my girls (would also be on my son but he hasn't let me since he was 5 - ah an Aspie) I grew up hug deprived. I'm convinced that's at least part of what made me promiscuous in my teens and early twenties - I was DESPERATE for human contact, so if that's something I can try to "nip in the bud" I will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keista, post: 429453, member: 11965"] [B]Thanks so much everyone! [/B]. I had more of her background written out, but it ended up ridiculously LONG so I cut it. In a nutshell: At 8yo started Prozac. Prozac was no good. Within a month she became more agitaed even though actual depression symptoms had eased. A few upped doses and arguments with psychiatrist later, we changed docs and put her on Zoloft. Side effect of fatigue. She was just too tired to feel or do anything. Switched to Wellbutrin. Moods seemed better, no agitation or 'tantrums' psychiatrist leaving practice so we switch again. Moods/depression seems to be stable for some time but she still gets anxious and continues to respond inappropriately to anxiety triggers - essentially she "freaks out" It's not a tantrum or a rage, but there is screaming, but all just in fear, Like what are you afraid of? Snakes, mice, spiders? That scream you let out when you see one of those, but also more complicated. OK, eg: Leaches are in the water on the shoreline. She's PETRIFIED of leaches. But she wants to be in the water. There are boogie boards she can use to float in the deep water with the big kids. EVERYONE assures her that there are no leaches in the deep water. She goes out on a board and is happy. Boys will be boys, and she gets knocked off her board. Starts screaming bloody murder, 3 dads instantly jump in to save her thinking maybe she got bit by a snake or something. Get her to shore, get her calm, no more water. Lesson learned - NOT Next day she wants to be right back out there. Try talking her out of it, 'casuse she might get knocked off again, yadda, yadda, yadda "No mom, I'm fine. It'll be alright" OK, Mom, gotta 'let go' UHG it all happens again. Anyway, after these stories, the psychiatrist added Paxil 10mg It was Sept 2010. Worked like a charm! She was less anxious about everything, anxiety with her peers seemed to completely disappear. November she had one depressive episode 2-3 hr duration. She's full on into puberty, so I start tracking to see if it will be a monthly thing possibly indicating menstruation starting soon. Dec one episode, Jan 2 episodes.And now we're caught up to what I wrote above I've reported all of this to psychiatrist. She did mention that if the depressive episodes get more frequent or severe, we will have to consider inpatient treatment. I CAN deal with that thought, BUT (insert Mom anxiety here) Truly, at the height (Low?) of her depressive episodes, I hold her in my arms to comfort her, and ultimately she pulls herself out of it enough to go to sleep and be fine the next day. So if I "send her away" when she feels the least loved.....oh just seems so counter intuitive. She's never tried to hurt herself, not even really threatened, just wishing and dreaming for now. If it does come down to real crisis, I will admit her. Unfortunately, the children's psychiatric hospital is almost an hour away, so going there during an episode probably won't work, and also ads to the mom anxiety of admitting her "too soon" [B]Susiestar[/B], No, I did not know there was a protocol. All the research I've done only yields 2 medications FDA approved for kids for depression, and just a handful more for BiPolar (BP) and anxiety. Also I thought Abilify WAS a mood stabilizer. That's what my psychiatrist calls it. Since I have the "good" insurance plan for her now including a registered nurse as her caseworker, I will be exploring more doctors and evaluations and options. I have the battery for my camera charging right now. Haven't used it since I first tried it out since it didn't come with editing software, and then what's the point, but for these purposes, i don't need to edit anything. [B]MWM[/B], sorry about your daughter. Mine was on Prozac too many months too long. The psychiatrist at the time kept dismissing all her NEW symptoms as ODD, and my parenting needed to be tweaked, and maybe I should come to his workshops, by the way there's a $50 registration fee for each one. Ironic thing is that I have in the past considered that she was ODD - just not so sever a degree as the stories I read online. But I also knew that I hadn't considered it as a diagnosis for her for a whole year before she started on the Prozac. [B]Rainbird[/B] Yeah, it does almost sound like multiple personality, but I'm 99.9% sure it is not. If it turns out to be, it would certainly be one for the record books since she hasn't had any kind of serious trauma to trigger it. I've learned never to say never, though. [B]Hound dog[/B] Thanks for the support. While reading your post I started thinking about what I had written of the day DD1 kept "flipping" around. I also realized that that day, she and I kept walking around, and as always when we're walking, my arm goes around her, then drops away to do stuff, then the arm is around her again. If I'm right about those hugs "getting her out", then it's feasible that I was actually flipping her switch that day. Hmmmmm by the way, yes I'm always hugging on my girls (would also be on my son but he hasn't let me since he was 5 - ah an Aspie) I grew up hug deprived. I'm convinced that's at least part of what made me promiscuous in my teens and early twenties - I was DESPERATE for human contact, so if that's something I can try to "nip in the bud" I will. [/QUOTE]
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