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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 242721" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Having family members in the penal system........... </p><p> </p><p>I can see both sides of the debate. One side wants to play "tough love" hoping stiffer sentences will be a deterant. The other wants to treat the "issues" of some inmates in hopes of rehabilitation and less repeat offenses.</p><p> </p><p>I have one nephew who most likely would have benefited from treatment for his bipolar had it been offered his first time in prison at 17. None such was offered where he was at the time. By his 2nd stint in prison.....almost halfway thru his sentence someone finally decided to listen. My nephew started treatment. But by then, although it did drastically help his moods ect, his "mind-set" on the world and how it works was warped. This nephew was paroled 8 months ago. No one will hire him because he is a felon. A twice convicted felon.</p><p> </p><p>My other nephew is now serving a long sentence for attempted bank robbery. (idiot) My brother did all he could with this kid to get him on the straight and narrow. And this nephew.....well if he has a mental illness he's mighty good about not showing symptoms. He is, however, lazy and determined to get money the "easy" way. This one would not benefit from any sort of rehab services I don't think. (I may be wrong)</p><p> </p><p>A cousin of mine turned out to be a "lifer". He didn't have a life sentence....he would just get paroled and do something that would wind him back inside. Honestly, I think it is because all of his sentences were long enough he felt like he was returning to a different world.</p><p> </p><p>My brother in law was in for a year over a stupid choice when he was young. That was enough for him and he never got into trouble with the law again. He got sent to a medication scurity prison on that first offense. He equaled it to being in *ell for a year.</p><p> </p><p>The first proposal I don't know if it would work. Certainly I get mad when someone can kill someone and be walking the streets 5 yrs later. Personally, I don't think those that do violent crimes should be released. (my opinion) But adding more time...don't see how that's going to do much.</p><p> </p><p>Treatment would be good for those who need it and may cause a drop in repeat offenders. IF they keep services available for them upon release and find a way to ease them back into society.</p><p> </p><p>Yet I am more for getting those persons treatment and services <strong>before</strong> they wind up in the system to begin with. My sister begged for services for older nephew for years and got nothing. She tried everything and it all fell on deaf ears.</p><p> </p><p>Oh. I also think many prison facilities have become a little to cushy these days. Cable tv, internet, stereos, gyms. I realize inmates have to have something to do....but geez many places inmates are living better than I am.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/faint.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faint:" title="faint :faint:" data-shortname=":faint:" /></p><p> </p><p>Oh, and younger nephews attitude about going to prison........So? I get 3 meals a day and live high on the hog for how ever many years they give me. Sad part of that was he wasn't too far off the mark.</p><p> </p><p>The system..........like so many others......needs an overhaul. But it needs to be a problem they really <strong>work</strong> on before making a decision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 242721, member: 84"] Having family members in the penal system........... I can see both sides of the debate. One side wants to play "tough love" hoping stiffer sentences will be a deterant. The other wants to treat the "issues" of some inmates in hopes of rehabilitation and less repeat offenses. I have one nephew who most likely would have benefited from treatment for his bipolar had it been offered his first time in prison at 17. None such was offered where he was at the time. By his 2nd stint in prison.....almost halfway thru his sentence someone finally decided to listen. My nephew started treatment. But by then, although it did drastically help his moods ect, his "mind-set" on the world and how it works was warped. This nephew was paroled 8 months ago. No one will hire him because he is a felon. A twice convicted felon. My other nephew is now serving a long sentence for attempted bank robbery. (idiot) My brother did all he could with this kid to get him on the straight and narrow. And this nephew.....well if he has a mental illness he's mighty good about not showing symptoms. He is, however, lazy and determined to get money the "easy" way. This one would not benefit from any sort of rehab services I don't think. (I may be wrong) A cousin of mine turned out to be a "lifer". He didn't have a life sentence....he would just get paroled and do something that would wind him back inside. Honestly, I think it is because all of his sentences were long enough he felt like he was returning to a different world. My brother in law was in for a year over a stupid choice when he was young. That was enough for him and he never got into trouble with the law again. He got sent to a medication scurity prison on that first offense. He equaled it to being in *ell for a year. The first proposal I don't know if it would work. Certainly I get mad when someone can kill someone and be walking the streets 5 yrs later. Personally, I don't think those that do violent crimes should be released. (my opinion) But adding more time...don't see how that's going to do much. Treatment would be good for those who need it and may cause a drop in repeat offenders. IF they keep services available for them upon release and find a way to ease them back into society. Yet I am more for getting those persons treatment and services [B]before[/B] they wind up in the system to begin with. My sister begged for services for older nephew for years and got nothing. She tried everything and it all fell on deaf ears. Oh. I also think many prison facilities have become a little to cushy these days. Cable tv, internet, stereos, gyms. I realize inmates have to have something to do....but geez many places inmates are living better than I am.:knockedout: Oh, and younger nephews attitude about going to prison........So? I get 3 meals a day and live high on the hog for how ever many years they give me. Sad part of that was he wasn't too far off the mark. The system..........like so many others......needs an overhaul. But it needs to be a problem they really [B]work[/B] on before making a decision. [/QUOTE]
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