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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 162349" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>I'm not for lying - but in this case I'd lie my butt off and tell someone she had threatened to harm herself. Once In I would see if they could get her evaluated in 72 hours, and from there I would move forward with a plan in mind. </p><p></p><p>M23 - I dont' want you to go away from this post thinking I advocate being deceitful, but in this case if you are desperate to get some answers then I don't know what else you could do. There is another "act" that parents can do for their adult children - I'll have to check in a few books to see if I can remember and get more info for you. </p><p></p><p>I STILL think it would be an okay thing if somehow you got your daughter to sign a HIPPA agreement that would allow the docs to share their findings on your daughter with you. She would have to give her signature on a form. Then they could talk to you about it. And if it's for the good of her son what harm could it do for you to know where you stand with him - except see she's already throwing in that no pills/no psychiatric hospital for MY son like you did me - so maybe you're back to the 1st suggestion. </p><p></p><p>Narcissism disorder was a thought for me too as Dude has traits of Borderline (BPD) and Narcissistic personality disorder and NPD runs in females more than males. Actually the traits Dude has in NPD are female. </p><p></p><p>If you ever get a chance to read CRAZY - Do it - it will explain TONS to you about our mental health system and how parents' hands are tied. It's actually where I got the idea to lie about the Baker Act. The authors son was delusional and schizophrenic and the psychiatrist didn't "suggest" that he lie to the police to have his son committed. Once in? They kept him longer than the 72 hours. My x tried to jump off a bridge in FL and they did an "act" on him and it wasn't baker - that's what I'm trying to think of. When I get it I'll let you know. It helped his Mom get him extended services. After 72 hours you can check yourself out. And this one you cant. </p><p></p><p>ARGH i hate brain lag. </p><p></p><p>Hugs</p><p>STar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 162349, member: 4964"] I'm not for lying - but in this case I'd lie my butt off and tell someone she had threatened to harm herself. Once In I would see if they could get her evaluated in 72 hours, and from there I would move forward with a plan in mind. M23 - I dont' want you to go away from this post thinking I advocate being deceitful, but in this case if you are desperate to get some answers then I don't know what else you could do. There is another "act" that parents can do for their adult children - I'll have to check in a few books to see if I can remember and get more info for you. I STILL think it would be an okay thing if somehow you got your daughter to sign a HIPPA agreement that would allow the docs to share their findings on your daughter with you. She would have to give her signature on a form. Then they could talk to you about it. And if it's for the good of her son what harm could it do for you to know where you stand with him - except see she's already throwing in that no pills/no psychiatric hospital for MY son like you did me - so maybe you're back to the 1st suggestion. Narcissism disorder was a thought for me too as Dude has traits of Borderline (BPD) and Narcissistic personality disorder and NPD runs in females more than males. Actually the traits Dude has in NPD are female. If you ever get a chance to read CRAZY - Do it - it will explain TONS to you about our mental health system and how parents' hands are tied. It's actually where I got the idea to lie about the Baker Act. The authors son was delusional and schizophrenic and the psychiatrist didn't "suggest" that he lie to the police to have his son committed. Once in? They kept him longer than the 72 hours. My x tried to jump off a bridge in FL and they did an "act" on him and it wasn't baker - that's what I'm trying to think of. When I get it I'll let you know. It helped his Mom get him extended services. After 72 hours you can check yourself out. And this one you cant. ARGH i hate brain lag. Hugs STar [/QUOTE]
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