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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 629179" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>I have disagree with nature trumping nurture. Of course genes give some outlines for us, but environmental factors are monumental. For example early care physically changes brains. Socio-economic group inherits strongly despite child being adopted or biological. Peer group has huge influence and so on.</p><p></p><p>People can also change, they can make some choices. If it would be all about nature, that would be totally impossible, because nothing would effect us. And that is not true.</p><p></p><p>And let's face it, we are talking about addictions and mental health issues. Both have some genetic components but both tend to inherit much stronger through nurture. Even the most genetic mental illnesses like schizophrenia can be only explained by half by genetics (if identical twin has it, his/her twin also has it only 50 % of the cases. If parent has it, but child doesn't grow up in the same household, risk for the child to get it dives steeply.) Everything else is even less hereditary. Of course many inherit socially. If the family has substance abuse background even adopted child is almost as likely to have them as biological child.</p><p></p><p>Of course environmental factors are not something as simple as if someone has a good family or not or if their personality clicked with their parents and if their parents were good at raising this particular type of child or not (child temperament makes huge difference to which kind of parenting is good and which is harmful.) It is about so much more from diet, to neighbourhood, to pure luck about which kind of peers kid has in their kindergarten class and how the dynamics work there and so much more.</p><p></p><p>And then there are of course those choices. People of course have much less of free will and possibilities to make choices than they think themselves, but we do have some choices we can make and for example it is not totally predetermined who will end up in jail because of continuous criminal activity and who will become a decent tax payer, though some babys of course are against the huge obstacles to not end up in jail because of some genetic and even more so environmental factors while others are almost destined for smooth sailing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 629179, member: 14557"] I have disagree with nature trumping nurture. Of course genes give some outlines for us, but environmental factors are monumental. For example early care physically changes brains. Socio-economic group inherits strongly despite child being adopted or biological. Peer group has huge influence and so on. People can also change, they can make some choices. If it would be all about nature, that would be totally impossible, because nothing would effect us. And that is not true. And let's face it, we are talking about addictions and mental health issues. Both have some genetic components but both tend to inherit much stronger through nurture. Even the most genetic mental illnesses like schizophrenia can be only explained by half by genetics (if identical twin has it, his/her twin also has it only 50 % of the cases. If parent has it, but child doesn't grow up in the same household, risk for the child to get it dives steeply.) Everything else is even less hereditary. Of course many inherit socially. If the family has substance abuse background even adopted child is almost as likely to have them as biological child. Of course environmental factors are not something as simple as if someone has a good family or not or if their personality clicked with their parents and if their parents were good at raising this particular type of child or not (child temperament makes huge difference to which kind of parenting is good and which is harmful.) It is about so much more from diet, to neighbourhood, to pure luck about which kind of peers kid has in their kindergarten class and how the dynamics work there and so much more. And then there are of course those choices. People of course have much less of free will and possibilities to make choices than they think themselves, but we do have some choices we can make and for example it is not totally predetermined who will end up in jail because of continuous criminal activity and who will become a decent tax payer, though some babys of course are against the huge obstacles to not end up in jail because of some genetic and even more so environmental factors while others are almost destined for smooth sailing. [/QUOTE]
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