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<blockquote data-quote="keista" data-source="post: 532741" data-attributes="member: 11965"><p>First, excusing difficult child 2 from the assignment isn't the answer. The immediate answer is to have him do an individual project instead. You mentioned several times talking in front of the class. Is that difficult child 2's problem or yours? Of course, I don't know your difficult child 2 and public speaking could be an issue for him, just not my experience that that would be the primary issue. </p><p></p><p>The primary issue is actually working in groups even if the group members are friends. It becomes even more difficult when the child is really smart, and probably the smartest in the group with possible the very best ideas, but with absolutely no leadership skills, so cannot lead the group - only boss them around and that's when problems start and it's just too difficult and annoying to sit quietly while the stupid kids put out stupid ideas or even wore absolutely factually WRONG ideas, but they have charm and leadership/team skills and everyone else goes along with it but difficult child just can't because it is STUPID and WRONG! Whew. Honestly, that's exactly how my son explains it. </p><p></p><p>Working in groups is a completely different animal from basic social skills. difficult child 2 should be started out in super small groups like just him and one other person. then work him up to groups of 3. Tough part is that he may never master it. My son is in 10th grade now. He's getting better at the group work thing and participates more often than not, BUT he still needs to be assigned to a group. When the class is just to Learning Disability (LD) to "split into groups" he shuts right down - even with friends or comfortable classmates in the room to choose from. Even when a group invites him in, he's not fully comfortable. When the teacher places him in a group, he can function much better. Took us two whole months in science last fall to figure out this nuance.</p><p></p><p>Although social skills classes and camps abound, I am so not a fan of them. The situations are usually much to structured and not reflective of real world possibilities, and it's difficult children interacting with difficult children. in my opinion the best social skills training comes from prepped and patient neurotypical peers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keista, post: 532741, member: 11965"] First, excusing difficult child 2 from the assignment isn't the answer. The immediate answer is to have him do an individual project instead. You mentioned several times talking in front of the class. Is that difficult child 2's problem or yours? Of course, I don't know your difficult child 2 and public speaking could be an issue for him, just not my experience that that would be the primary issue. The primary issue is actually working in groups even if the group members are friends. It becomes even more difficult when the child is really smart, and probably the smartest in the group with possible the very best ideas, but with absolutely no leadership skills, so cannot lead the group - only boss them around and that's when problems start and it's just too difficult and annoying to sit quietly while the stupid kids put out stupid ideas or even wore absolutely factually WRONG ideas, but they have charm and leadership/team skills and everyone else goes along with it but difficult child just can't because it is STUPID and WRONG! Whew. Honestly, that's exactly how my son explains it. Working in groups is a completely different animal from basic social skills. difficult child 2 should be started out in super small groups like just him and one other person. then work him up to groups of 3. Tough part is that he may never master it. My son is in 10th grade now. He's getting better at the group work thing and participates more often than not, BUT he still needs to be assigned to a group. When the class is just to Learning Disability (LD) to "split into groups" he shuts right down - even with friends or comfortable classmates in the room to choose from. Even when a group invites him in, he's not fully comfortable. When the teacher places him in a group, he can function much better. Took us two whole months in science last fall to figure out this nuance. Although social skills classes and camps abound, I am so not a fan of them. The situations are usually much to structured and not reflective of real world possibilities, and it's difficult children interacting with difficult children. in my opinion the best social skills training comes from prepped and patient neurotypical peers. [/QUOTE]
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