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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 535075" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>When I was little and police came to show and tell days that is how it was....they said that they and their fellow cops had never even had to draw their guns. Now, especially on highways or in the cities/suburbs of cities, the chance that every day citizens have guns that are stolen or to be used in crime situations is so high. We have police officers dying or hurt so often, I do understand that the training needs to be different now, BUT having a cousin who is a cop in a large metro area....I have heard awful things. He says they start out wanting to help, be there for the underdog, etc. They see creeps they pick up over and over and o ver released to victimize people again and again and they take the law in their own hands to some degree...they start to get too rough. They ARE stressed about dying and are taught once you think you are in danger you shoot to kill, not to hurt. In our former city, where we lived years ago...Q went on a field trip to the police station and they showed us guns that they had actually taken off people in our safe little suburb. It was amazing! everyday items were converted to terrible weapons, not just knives...but guns. Things you'd never know were guns. I was stunned. </p><p></p><p>In our current city, the police we have met SO FAR have been very reasonable. The crisis center for our county said that our city's police dept is one they especially respect. The first time I h ad to call t hem I told them he had his Integrated Listening Systems (ILS) worker and some high school boys walking with him to calm him down and that if he saw their cars he may escalate again....they pulled backwards behind our garages and just hung out to help if needed. The last one told Q he would never hurt him. He just wanted to help him but that meant keeping everyone safe so if he had to go to the hospital then we would do that. I only met one older guy who talked to him too fast and as if he was a typical teen just mouthing off ("have I had to deal with you before??? etc.) but he was not mean, just clueless. </p><p></p><p>I wish (not being political here, just a wish) we did not have a hand gun problem here in the USA. But in general I think the police can be trusted if you really need help. For mental health issues, I really think they dont have enough training and can be very hurtful. My cousin was part of a group of cops that ended up killing a woman with their cars in an accident...after a chase and she was very psychotic. I thought in the end it would kill him. He was devastated. I wish it was how you describe in your area. But I am grateful it is not the corruption level that it is in for example many south american countries (and other places). We have some dirty cops as they say....but not the general feeling here anyway.</p><p></p><p>I am much like you on the religious front. In Oct/Nov I had a real faith crisis. But now it is my comfort. I am still not tied to any one religion (was raised Catholic) and I am one who believes there is more than one path to God....but I do need that in my life now.</p><p></p><p>oh here is that story: <a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/calu-m13.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/calu-m13.shtml</a></p><p></p><p>Have a good day</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 535075, member: 12886"] When I was little and police came to show and tell days that is how it was....they said that they and their fellow cops had never even had to draw their guns. Now, especially on highways or in the cities/suburbs of cities, the chance that every day citizens have guns that are stolen or to be used in crime situations is so high. We have police officers dying or hurt so often, I do understand that the training needs to be different now, BUT having a cousin who is a cop in a large metro area....I have heard awful things. He says they start out wanting to help, be there for the underdog, etc. They see creeps they pick up over and over and o ver released to victimize people again and again and they take the law in their own hands to some degree...they start to get too rough. They ARE stressed about dying and are taught once you think you are in danger you shoot to kill, not to hurt. In our former city, where we lived years ago...Q went on a field trip to the police station and they showed us guns that they had actually taken off people in our safe little suburb. It was amazing! everyday items were converted to terrible weapons, not just knives...but guns. Things you'd never know were guns. I was stunned. In our current city, the police we have met SO FAR have been very reasonable. The crisis center for our county said that our city's police dept is one they especially respect. The first time I h ad to call t hem I told them he had his Integrated Listening Systems (ILS) worker and some high school boys walking with him to calm him down and that if he saw their cars he may escalate again....they pulled backwards behind our garages and just hung out to help if needed. The last one told Q he would never hurt him. He just wanted to help him but that meant keeping everyone safe so if he had to go to the hospital then we would do that. I only met one older guy who talked to him too fast and as if he was a typical teen just mouthing off ("have I had to deal with you before??? etc.) but he was not mean, just clueless. I wish (not being political here, just a wish) we did not have a hand gun problem here in the USA. But in general I think the police can be trusted if you really need help. For mental health issues, I really think they dont have enough training and can be very hurtful. My cousin was part of a group of cops that ended up killing a woman with their cars in an accident...after a chase and she was very psychotic. I thought in the end it would kill him. He was devastated. I wish it was how you describe in your area. But I am grateful it is not the corruption level that it is in for example many south american countries (and other places). We have some dirty cops as they say....but not the general feeling here anyway. I am much like you on the religious front. In Oct/Nov I had a real faith crisis. But now it is my comfort. I am still not tied to any one religion (was raised Catholic) and I am one who believes there is more than one path to God....but I do need that in my life now. oh here is that story: [URL]http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/calu-m13.shtml[/URL] Have a good day [/QUOTE]
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