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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 223500" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>One important thing: Aspergers is NOT NOT NOT mental illness, which is why so many psychiatrists miss it. It is a neurological difference. Some Aspies have co-morbid problems (be careful--they tried to say my son had bipolar AND Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, but that turned out to be wrong). The most significant difference with my son and me is that he's happier than me and far less moody. But mood disorders are common with Aspies. My son DOES get a little depressed at times (he said so, but ALSO said it isn't often and it goes away fast). Bipolars are controlled by their crazy moodswings. Aspies/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified are controlled by their singleminded interest and social cluelessness. I need medication. My Aspie/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified son does better off of all medications and plain out doesn't like medication (he was on medications when he had his wrong diagnosis of bipolar). Interestingly, in families where bipolar is common, there is more autism. </p><p>I like the 6-10 hour neuropsychologist evaluation precisely because NeuroPsychs know about both bipolar and Aspergers and ADHD and learning disabilities and do intensive testing to try to find out exactly what is going on. A one hour evaluation is often just not intensive enough to diagnose our kids, whatever is wrong. </p><p>The type of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) behavior in autism/Aspergers is like an inability to let go, a wish for constant sameness, and perseverance (to put it mildly). Our neuropsychologist doesn't treat Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) behaviors in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids because it's all part and parcel of the spectrum. I don't know if he is the rule or the exception. ADHD behavior is also part and parcel of the spectrum and is usually the first diagnosis one gets, unless it's ADHD/ODD (our first diagnosis). The kids are NOT being defiant though. They are freaking out because they are frustrated or, in many cases, are experiencing anxiety over transitional changes or sometimes even how we changed the furnture in the house--they don't like change. My son can handle all of these things better as he gets over, at least outwardly. Also, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids often "stimulant." That can be making loud smacking noises, flapping their arms, masturbating in inappropriate places (as they, especially at a young age, are socially clueless), making strange high pitched noises--my son still does the latter, although only in his room. The kids HAVE to stimulant. It's an outlet. They also may rock or bounce (my son broke his bed from bouncing on it). Aspies/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified kids often have flat expressions and voices. But then again when excited they can become quite animated, especially when talking about their obsessive interest, which can range from dinosaurs to weather to videogames (my son has the latter one, and it's far more extreme than you regular child videogame enthusiast). He can literally name everything about Mario from Mario Brothers and Sonic (his two obsessions). He knows the dates each game came out. He knows every single power of every single character. He knows how old each character is. He can talk about Mario and Sonic (the games) and make the games sound like rocket science with his "Little Professor" way of speaking. We have to force him to do his sports and in summer he goes to all day summer school or he would do nothing except play videogames and watch his special shows on television. NOTHING...lol! He does not know how to amuse himself when he doesn't have his props. He doesn't have an imagination. So he usually walks around picking things up and examining them, but doesn't join in the interaction of kids his age unless he is specifically asked to join in, and even then sometimes he would rather not. He is very different from me, the scatter-brained, all-over-the-place bipolar person. The symptoms overlap, but I think the kids are very different. JMO again. I'll shut up now...lol. Have a good day <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 223500, member: 1550"] One important thing: Aspergers is NOT NOT NOT mental illness, which is why so many psychiatrists miss it. It is a neurological difference. Some Aspies have co-morbid problems (be careful--they tried to say my son had bipolar AND Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, but that turned out to be wrong). The most significant difference with my son and me is that he's happier than me and far less moody. But mood disorders are common with Aspies. My son DOES get a little depressed at times (he said so, but ALSO said it isn't often and it goes away fast). Bipolars are controlled by their crazy moodswings. Aspies/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified are controlled by their singleminded interest and social cluelessness. I need medication. My Aspie/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified son does better off of all medications and plain out doesn't like medication (he was on medications when he had his wrong diagnosis of bipolar). Interestingly, in families where bipolar is common, there is more autism. I like the 6-10 hour neuropsychologist evaluation precisely because NeuroPsychs know about both bipolar and Aspergers and ADHD and learning disabilities and do intensive testing to try to find out exactly what is going on. A one hour evaluation is often just not intensive enough to diagnose our kids, whatever is wrong. The type of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) behavior in autism/Aspergers is like an inability to let go, a wish for constant sameness, and perseverance (to put it mildly). Our neuropsychologist doesn't treat Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) behaviors in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids because it's all part and parcel of the spectrum. I don't know if he is the rule or the exception. ADHD behavior is also part and parcel of the spectrum and is usually the first diagnosis one gets, unless it's ADHD/ODD (our first diagnosis). The kids are NOT being defiant though. They are freaking out because they are frustrated or, in many cases, are experiencing anxiety over transitional changes or sometimes even how we changed the furnture in the house--they don't like change. My son can handle all of these things better as he gets over, at least outwardly. Also, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids often "stimulant." That can be making loud smacking noises, flapping their arms, masturbating in inappropriate places (as they, especially at a young age, are socially clueless), making strange high pitched noises--my son still does the latter, although only in his room. The kids HAVE to stimulant. It's an outlet. They also may rock or bounce (my son broke his bed from bouncing on it). Aspies/Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified kids often have flat expressions and voices. But then again when excited they can become quite animated, especially when talking about their obsessive interest, which can range from dinosaurs to weather to videogames (my son has the latter one, and it's far more extreme than you regular child videogame enthusiast). He can literally name everything about Mario from Mario Brothers and Sonic (his two obsessions). He knows the dates each game came out. He knows every single power of every single character. He knows how old each character is. He can talk about Mario and Sonic (the games) and make the games sound like rocket science with his "Little Professor" way of speaking. We have to force him to do his sports and in summer he goes to all day summer school or he would do nothing except play videogames and watch his special shows on television. NOTHING...lol! He does not know how to amuse himself when he doesn't have his props. He doesn't have an imagination. So he usually walks around picking things up and examining them, but doesn't join in the interaction of kids his age unless he is specifically asked to join in, and even then sometimes he would rather not. He is very different from me, the scatter-brained, all-over-the-place bipolar person. The symptoms overlap, but I think the kids are very different. JMO again. I'll shut up now...lol. Have a good day :) [/QUOTE]
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