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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 440784" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>After our foster son who abused our younger children and killed our dogs was gone, we learned A WHOLE LOT about budding psychopathy in children. We took our kids to top specialists in top hospitals in our state to get them help and I will REPEAT what we were told in less gentle terms by a ton of professionals, many from Mayo Clinic, but some from university hospitals AND child protective services (who have seen just about everything).</p><p></p><p>There are three BIG RED FLAGS in children who are at HIGH RISK to become psychopathic as adults and it starts very young. These three symptoms are:</p><p></p><p>1/Peeing/pooping inappropriately. It may be that they do it at too old an age or smear their poop or poop in closets. It is one of the BIG THREE. Alone it can mean sensory problems, but part of the group it is a big red flag.</p><p></p><p>2/Fascination with fire and fire setting, such as the young man my friend had as a foster child who burned her house down. However...there are smaller signs. The child WE had, set tiny fires that hub and I never saw. He did it in his room and forced my other kids to watch and often said, "If you tell them, I'll burn the whole house down. See, I'm crazy and I don't care if all of us die." The kids were terrified and did not tell us until after her left. That is another of the BIG THREE.</p><p></p><p>3/Cruelty to animals. This includes ANY animals. Normal kids do not tear t he wings off of flies or step on mice or laugh at hurt little pigs or kick horses or choke the dog (often when nobody is around). We found out our son had been doing these things to many animals AFTER he left. My other two had seen him choking cats etc. in the nieghborhood but again he said "I'll kill YOU and Dad and Mom too" so they were afraid to tell us. Only after he killed our second dog did we know what he was really like as he was great at hiding the worst of himself. The first dog he killed, our beloved dog of eight years, we thought was killed by some wild teens who were angry at my daughter. NObody cried louder at his death than the boy who had killed him...he was quite an actor, which can be part of psychopathy in children. The second dog he killed was just a puppy that we'd gotten to replace our dog. He got careless...since he was the only one home except for me and the puppy was in the house, we knew that it was him who had put the leash around the poor little girl and thrown her off the top bunk, choking her to death. Makes me cry even now.</p><p></p><p>This child was 13 by the time he was asked to leave. We had no idea how bad it was or that he was this sick at all because he was good at hiding it and acting great to grown ups. Do not allow your child to go this far. Do not take hurting animals lightly. It is not a normal kid phase. It is a very serious symptom of something badly wrong. It needs help TODAY.</p><p></p><p>I would rehome all of your pets. You can not watch him all the time. I would limit his time in the woods unless you can keep your eyes on him at all times. Take him to the best psychiatrist you can and good luck, hon. We all wish you and your little one a favorable outcome. My experience has left me, unfortuately, knowing just how bad it can get if we let things like this go. THIS IS NOT HOW BOYS ARE, even if somebody says "It's just boys." It's NOT.</p><p></p><p>I do not have a clue what is wrong with him. I wish I could help more. I just know that the behavior has to stop. Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 440784, member: 1550"] After our foster son who abused our younger children and killed our dogs was gone, we learned A WHOLE LOT about budding psychopathy in children. We took our kids to top specialists in top hospitals in our state to get them help and I will REPEAT what we were told in less gentle terms by a ton of professionals, many from Mayo Clinic, but some from university hospitals AND child protective services (who have seen just about everything). There are three BIG RED FLAGS in children who are at HIGH RISK to become psychopathic as adults and it starts very young. These three symptoms are: 1/Peeing/pooping inappropriately. It may be that they do it at too old an age or smear their poop or poop in closets. It is one of the BIG THREE. Alone it can mean sensory problems, but part of the group it is a big red flag. 2/Fascination with fire and fire setting, such as the young man my friend had as a foster child who burned her house down. However...there are smaller signs. The child WE had, set tiny fires that hub and I never saw. He did it in his room and forced my other kids to watch and often said, "If you tell them, I'll burn the whole house down. See, I'm crazy and I don't care if all of us die." The kids were terrified and did not tell us until after her left. That is another of the BIG THREE. 3/Cruelty to animals. This includes ANY animals. Normal kids do not tear t he wings off of flies or step on mice or laugh at hurt little pigs or kick horses or choke the dog (often when nobody is around). We found out our son had been doing these things to many animals AFTER he left. My other two had seen him choking cats etc. in the nieghborhood but again he said "I'll kill YOU and Dad and Mom too" so they were afraid to tell us. Only after he killed our second dog did we know what he was really like as he was great at hiding the worst of himself. The first dog he killed, our beloved dog of eight years, we thought was killed by some wild teens who were angry at my daughter. NObody cried louder at his death than the boy who had killed him...he was quite an actor, which can be part of psychopathy in children. The second dog he killed was just a puppy that we'd gotten to replace our dog. He got careless...since he was the only one home except for me and the puppy was in the house, we knew that it was him who had put the leash around the poor little girl and thrown her off the top bunk, choking her to death. Makes me cry even now. This child was 13 by the time he was asked to leave. We had no idea how bad it was or that he was this sick at all because he was good at hiding it and acting great to grown ups. Do not allow your child to go this far. Do not take hurting animals lightly. It is not a normal kid phase. It is a very serious symptom of something badly wrong. It needs help TODAY. I would rehome all of your pets. You can not watch him all the time. I would limit his time in the woods unless you can keep your eyes on him at all times. Take him to the best psychiatrist you can and good luck, hon. We all wish you and your little one a favorable outcome. My experience has left me, unfortuately, knowing just how bad it can get if we let things like this go. THIS IS NOT HOW BOYS ARE, even if somebody says "It's just boys." It's NOT. I do not have a clue what is wrong with him. I wish I could help more. I just know that the behavior has to stop. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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