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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 585132" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>For a few months the title to this book would NOT come to mind. I read it years ago as we tried to figure out how to help Wiz and raise the other kids. I had a real problem with anger and created more than a few problems that we didn't need. I have recommended the book for moms dealing with anger, and this is the other book that helped me so much back then and since then.</p><p></p><p>Before anyone is offended, I am NOT saying our kids, difficult child or not, are dogs. In no way do I mean that we should think of them or treat them as dogs or other animals (not even when the child will only wear her cow costume from Halloween and make mooing sounds, lol). Sometimes the ways used to reach animals are more effective and more humane that the ways used try to reach kids. The author started working with dolphins at a Sea World type place in the early sixties because she was married to one of the park bosses and no one else could get them to do anything. She has become renowned for her no-punishment training methods, esp as they have proven to be more effective than many other methods. It cannot hurt to try the basic techniques with our kids, esp if some common sense is thrown into the mix. Or that has been our experience. </p><p></p><p>Until I read this, I hadn't thought about how you would go about training a dolphin or gorilla or other wild animal that you couldn't physically make do what you want. Many animal training methods through time depended on pain to stop a behavior. That is fine if you can keep the animal caged and you don't mind having a scared, aggressive animal. But how do you train a dolphin or wild horse or other animal you cannot control so completely? If you use pain they simply won't come anywhere near you. </p><p></p><p>This books helps answer that, and it has some amazingly useful techniques. I found them esp useful for that breed of wild animal called teenager. Once I read the book, I realized my mom did too. Oh that smug little grin when I mentioned it to her, truly a funny moment and then a big belly laugh for both of us! </p><p></p><p>Don't Shoot the Dog! The New Art of Teaching and Training is the title on the later editions. Author is Karen Pryor. Some of the used prices are truly ludicrous, but there are reasonably priced used copies on amazon, alibris and abebooks.com (my 3 go-to online bookstores). It isn't available for kindle at this time, but Pryor has another book that is available for kindle titled "Reaching the Animal Mind: Clicker Training and What It Teaches Us About All Animals". I haven't read it, but it sounds very useful and interesting. I hope someone finds this useful at some time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 585132, member: 1233"] For a few months the title to this book would NOT come to mind. I read it years ago as we tried to figure out how to help Wiz and raise the other kids. I had a real problem with anger and created more than a few problems that we didn't need. I have recommended the book for moms dealing with anger, and this is the other book that helped me so much back then and since then. Before anyone is offended, I am NOT saying our kids, difficult child or not, are dogs. In no way do I mean that we should think of them or treat them as dogs or other animals (not even when the child will only wear her cow costume from Halloween and make mooing sounds, lol). Sometimes the ways used to reach animals are more effective and more humane that the ways used try to reach kids. The author started working with dolphins at a Sea World type place in the early sixties because she was married to one of the park bosses and no one else could get them to do anything. She has become renowned for her no-punishment training methods, esp as they have proven to be more effective than many other methods. It cannot hurt to try the basic techniques with our kids, esp if some common sense is thrown into the mix. Or that has been our experience. Until I read this, I hadn't thought about how you would go about training a dolphin or gorilla or other wild animal that you couldn't physically make do what you want. Many animal training methods through time depended on pain to stop a behavior. That is fine if you can keep the animal caged and you don't mind having a scared, aggressive animal. But how do you train a dolphin or wild horse or other animal you cannot control so completely? If you use pain they simply won't come anywhere near you. This books helps answer that, and it has some amazingly useful techniques. I found them esp useful for that breed of wild animal called teenager. Once I read the book, I realized my mom did too. Oh that smug little grin when I mentioned it to her, truly a funny moment and then a big belly laugh for both of us! Don't Shoot the Dog! The New Art of Teaching and Training is the title on the later editions. Author is Karen Pryor. Some of the used prices are truly ludicrous, but there are reasonably priced used copies on amazon, alibris and abebooks.com (my 3 go-to online bookstores). It isn't available for kindle at this time, but Pryor has another book that is available for kindle titled "Reaching the Animal Mind: Clicker Training and What It Teaches Us About All Animals". I haven't read it, but it sounds very useful and interesting. I hope someone finds this useful at some time. [/QUOTE]
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