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<blockquote data-quote="AnnieO" data-source="post: 412255" data-attributes="member: 6705"><p>Nomad... What you said about making a decision for change is true.</p><p> </p><p>What may or may not also be important - is the patient/user's <em>attitude</em>. Some (a <strong>lot</strong> of our difficult children in fact) are <em>very</em> good at playing the system.</p><p> </p><p>Onyxx was told to attend a class on drugs. Yup, she learned quite a bit. I do <em>not</em> think the aim of the class was to teach her better ways to get high. But there it was. The counseling she received? She does understand exactly what <em>can</em> happen. But, one, she is a teen - "it won't happen to <strong>me</strong>" - and two, she just does not <em>care</em>. But even so, she is able to act - put on that serious face - "yes, I understand. No, I don't think that is a good thing. I won't do <em>that</em>, ever" - and then the next week test positive.</p><p> </p><p>I agree with Nancy though. The younger they are? The less likely counseling, rehabs or any other program are to really affect them. Because as a teenager? They haven't hit bottom. Bottom is when you have no support. No one doing things for you. Nothing. And you realize it's over unless you do something. Some people don't ever hit bottom - they die.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AnnieO, post: 412255, member: 6705"] Nomad... What you said about making a decision for change is true. What may or may not also be important - is the patient/user's [I]attitude[/I]. Some (a [B]lot[/B] of our difficult children in fact) are [I]very[/I] good at playing the system. Onyxx was told to attend a class on drugs. Yup, she learned quite a bit. I do [I]not[/I] think the aim of the class was to teach her better ways to get high. But there it was. The counseling she received? She does understand exactly what [I]can[/I] happen. But, one, she is a teen - "it won't happen to [B]me[/B]" - and two, she just does not [I]care[/I]. But even so, she is able to act - put on that serious face - "yes, I understand. No, I don't think that is a good thing. I won't do [I]that[/I], ever" - and then the next week test positive. I agree with Nancy though. The younger they are? The less likely counseling, rehabs or any other program are to really affect them. Because as a teenager? They haven't hit bottom. Bottom is when you have no support. No one doing things for you. Nothing. And you realize it's over unless you do something. Some people don't ever hit bottom - they die. [/QUOTE]
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