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<blockquote data-quote="pepperidge" data-source="post: 438362" data-attributes="member: 2322"><p>Interesting responses, ladies, thank you.</p><p></p><p>My oldest son had a period of raging about 5 years ago or so. Partially wrong medicine, partially not right medicines. Definitely wrong parenting. To try to get him out of it, I would try threats while he was in it. As someone mentioned above, kids in that state cannot be reasoned with. It is almost worth doing whatever it takes to get them out of it. And then addressing it when they are stable. There really was a feral quality about it as one poster said.</p><p></p><p>My youngest (the one I wrote about) is not raging. I don't think he has a mood disorder probably. It is more like he is a four year old, he wants what he wants when he wants it and when he doesn't get he gets bummed out for a period of time. But it is overlaid with this almost adult nastiness. And when he gets in that state you can't have a rational conversation. He is not destructive or physically aggressive. Maybe like raging, but not with the intensity or destructiveness that I have seen with oldest. We have seen improvements, TL, so you are right, maturity is helping. Whoever on the board said to remember that these kids are 1/3 or 1/3 developmentally their chronological age was right.</p><p></p><p>You have given me some great suggestions. Anger management--I will look into that. I also will look in the borderline personality therapy --DBT. There might be some concepts there that I can use. And the books that Star suggested.</p><p></p><p>As for medications I will have another talk with psychiatrist. I am not going anywhere near Intuniv--that's the long-acting Tenex. difficult child had a paradoxical reaction to that twice--unbelievable levels of aggression. Last time we trialed SSRIs to deal with his tendency to perservate on other people's wrongdoings he was tying ropes to trees and seeing if he could jump off the roof. Not going there either. His psychiatrist said that up to age 14 higher levels of Concerta were not approved. but he is over 14. We might trial that when HS starts, but I am a bit nervous about raising the levels of Concerta. The level he is on seems to keep him focused sufficiently in school. Seroquel might be something. </p><p></p><p>In any event, some of his behavior (impulsivity, low frustration tolerance) is classic fetal alcohol affects, and hard to medicate. Maturity will help. But I think he is also getting to the point where adults he respects can have some impact on his behavior. He is a very coachable kid. We might need to have another round of therapy, though frankly I have never seen great benefits from the talk therapy that either of my kids have had. I have come to believe that my kids benefit more from therapy in the moment rather than in the therapist's office. The right words of a coach or teacher or staff person close to some situation seems to have more of an impact. My oldest son was in wilderness last year--I think for him the experience was the major therapeutic change agent, not the words of the therapist as much. Though who knows, hard to sort it all out.</p><p></p><p>i'm going to look into your suggestions. Thanks everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pepperidge, post: 438362, member: 2322"] Interesting responses, ladies, thank you. My oldest son had a period of raging about 5 years ago or so. Partially wrong medicine, partially not right medicines. Definitely wrong parenting. To try to get him out of it, I would try threats while he was in it. As someone mentioned above, kids in that state cannot be reasoned with. It is almost worth doing whatever it takes to get them out of it. And then addressing it when they are stable. There really was a feral quality about it as one poster said. My youngest (the one I wrote about) is not raging. I don't think he has a mood disorder probably. It is more like he is a four year old, he wants what he wants when he wants it and when he doesn't get he gets bummed out for a period of time. But it is overlaid with this almost adult nastiness. And when he gets in that state you can't have a rational conversation. He is not destructive or physically aggressive. Maybe like raging, but not with the intensity or destructiveness that I have seen with oldest. We have seen improvements, TL, so you are right, maturity is helping. Whoever on the board said to remember that these kids are 1/3 or 1/3 developmentally their chronological age was right. You have given me some great suggestions. Anger management--I will look into that. I also will look in the borderline personality therapy --DBT. There might be some concepts there that I can use. And the books that Star suggested. As for medications I will have another talk with psychiatrist. I am not going anywhere near Intuniv--that's the long-acting Tenex. difficult child had a paradoxical reaction to that twice--unbelievable levels of aggression. Last time we trialed SSRIs to deal with his tendency to perservate on other people's wrongdoings he was tying ropes to trees and seeing if he could jump off the roof. Not going there either. His psychiatrist said that up to age 14 higher levels of Concerta were not approved. but he is over 14. We might trial that when HS starts, but I am a bit nervous about raising the levels of Concerta. The level he is on seems to keep him focused sufficiently in school. Seroquel might be something. In any event, some of his behavior (impulsivity, low frustration tolerance) is classic fetal alcohol affects, and hard to medicate. Maturity will help. But I think he is also getting to the point where adults he respects can have some impact on his behavior. He is a very coachable kid. We might need to have another round of therapy, though frankly I have never seen great benefits from the talk therapy that either of my kids have had. I have come to believe that my kids benefit more from therapy in the moment rather than in the therapist's office. The right words of a coach or teacher or staff person close to some situation seems to have more of an impact. My oldest son was in wilderness last year--I think for him the experience was the major therapeutic change agent, not the words of the therapist as much. Though who knows, hard to sort it all out. i'm going to look into your suggestions. Thanks everyone. [/QUOTE]
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