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<blockquote data-quote="barneysmom" data-source="post: 373564" data-attributes="member: 1872"><p>Hi Allan.</p><p></p><p>EF's are one of my favorite topics. Both my kids have diagnosis and labels, but I always think of them as having Executive Function Disorder. I think I stole this term from Fran who used to use it in her sig line.</p><p></p><p>My gfg13 got a lot of D's and F's the past school term. 13 is on Adderall LA, still with D's and F's, homework refusal. Yet recently he played chess with husband and the game lasted 1 1/2 hrs! For most of the time, difficult child had three chess pieces left, and evaded his dad for at least an hour. Dad had about ten chess pieces left. And husband takes no prisoners in chess (unless he is teaching the boys, then he lets up a little).</p><p></p><p>I can't imagine all the EF's that difficult child is using to play chess, the ultimate game of planning, implementing and evaluating. Holding the vision of the chess pieces in his working memory. Motivated to hold off his dad even though it was likely that he would lose with only three men.</p><p></p><p>I was very heartened to realize that difficult child does have these skills.</p><p></p><p>I take Adderall for ADD -- it helps me with initiation of a task and once I begin the task, I remain organized and motivated to complete it. I think the motivation, however, comes with being an adult -- it would be different if I was a kid in school facing all those tasks in a boring classroom. Along with being motivated, I can anticipate the satisfaction I will feel when the job is done. Even if it's a job I don't like, like housework, I know I will feel more energized with a clean house and that I will function better. </p><p></p><p>"when the brain is operating with the knowledge of a possible reward it shuts off those parts of the brain used for voluntary and self initiating activity"</p><p></p><p>Interesting. So when difficult child is playing chess with dad, the reward is occurring immediately and not in terms of a "possible" reward -- he's already holding dad off, and whether or not difficult child wins or loses, he knows he's going to give a legendary chess player a run for his money. Same with me -- when I'm doing a task like housework, it's not a possible reward I'm anticipating -- it's a sure thing.</p><p></p><p>Jo</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barneysmom, post: 373564, member: 1872"] Hi Allan. EF's are one of my favorite topics. Both my kids have diagnosis and labels, but I always think of them as having Executive Function Disorder. I think I stole this term from Fran who used to use it in her sig line. My gfg13 got a lot of D's and F's the past school term. 13 is on Adderall LA, still with D's and F's, homework refusal. Yet recently he played chess with husband and the game lasted 1 1/2 hrs! For most of the time, difficult child had three chess pieces left, and evaded his dad for at least an hour. Dad had about ten chess pieces left. And husband takes no prisoners in chess (unless he is teaching the boys, then he lets up a little). I can't imagine all the EF's that difficult child is using to play chess, the ultimate game of planning, implementing and evaluating. Holding the vision of the chess pieces in his working memory. Motivated to hold off his dad even though it was likely that he would lose with only three men. I was very heartened to realize that difficult child does have these skills. I take Adderall for ADD -- it helps me with initiation of a task and once I begin the task, I remain organized and motivated to complete it. I think the motivation, however, comes with being an adult -- it would be different if I was a kid in school facing all those tasks in a boring classroom. Along with being motivated, I can anticipate the satisfaction I will feel when the job is done. Even if it's a job I don't like, like housework, I know I will feel more energized with a clean house and that I will function better. "when the brain is operating with the knowledge of a possible reward it shuts off those parts of the brain used for voluntary and self initiating activity" Interesting. So when difficult child is playing chess with dad, the reward is occurring immediately and not in terms of a "possible" reward -- he's already holding dad off, and whether or not difficult child wins or loses, he knows he's going to give a legendary chess player a run for his money. Same with me -- when I'm doing a task like housework, it's not a possible reward I'm anticipating -- it's a sure thing. Jo [/QUOTE]
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