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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 484249" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Only speaking for our case- and not wanting to hi jack the thread- the group home propsed for difficult child has NO MH prof and no licensed counselor of any sort. They have some sort of anger management 'treatment' or course that would be required of difficult child and I would be required to participate. The course requires difficult child to work thru phases. So I'm thinking, he had one anger management course while on probation, then 2 stints in Department of Juvenile Justice where he was required to do anger management 'treatment' and required to work his way thru phases, but this lady thinks she has the magic answer.</p><p></p><p>No, we cannot get a therapist or psychiatric or traditional family therapy by a licensed therapist unless they do me the favor of allowing me the privilege of picking difficult child and transporting him to a therapist that I pay for. This is just our case, DJ, because it's funded by Department of Juvenile Justice funding and that doesn't cover 'real' MH treatment, only behavior mod.</p><p></p><p>JFK will have to respond reagrading her son's situation.</p><p></p><p>DJ- did you get my PM?</p><p></p><p>Any way, My perosnal opinion regarding your question- because when they get more funding approved, they spend it doing the same things they've always done, that have already proven not to work. More kids are getting committed to Department of Juvenile Justice and more are recommitted once in. So states and local jurisdictions say they need more money to deal with it. They get more money...they try the same tactics. OK, if your difficult child didn't spend his money effectively and had failing results and planned on using any furutre money doing the same thing, would you hand him more money? At some point wouldn't you say 'if you want more money, you're going to have to come up with a different plan that has more potential for reaping some benefit'? You know...you have to try something different if you want a different result and I think that applies to the juvie system as much as the family members. Just my 2 cents....</p><p></p><p>handing thread back over now.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 484249, member: 3699"] Only speaking for our case- and not wanting to hi jack the thread- the group home propsed for difficult child has NO MH prof and no licensed counselor of any sort. They have some sort of anger management 'treatment' or course that would be required of difficult child and I would be required to participate. The course requires difficult child to work thru phases. So I'm thinking, he had one anger management course while on probation, then 2 stints in Department of Juvenile Justice where he was required to do anger management 'treatment' and required to work his way thru phases, but this lady thinks she has the magic answer. No, we cannot get a therapist or psychiatric or traditional family therapy by a licensed therapist unless they do me the favor of allowing me the privilege of picking difficult child and transporting him to a therapist that I pay for. This is just our case, DJ, because it's funded by Department of Juvenile Justice funding and that doesn't cover 'real' MH treatment, only behavior mod. JFK will have to respond reagrading her son's situation. DJ- did you get my PM? Any way, My perosnal opinion regarding your question- because when they get more funding approved, they spend it doing the same things they've always done, that have already proven not to work. More kids are getting committed to Department of Juvenile Justice and more are recommitted once in. So states and local jurisdictions say they need more money to deal with it. They get more money...they try the same tactics. OK, if your difficult child didn't spend his money effectively and had failing results and planned on using any furutre money doing the same thing, would you hand him more money? At some point wouldn't you say 'if you want more money, you're going to have to come up with a different plan that has more potential for reaping some benefit'? You know...you have to try something different if you want a different result and I think that applies to the juvie system as much as the family members. Just my 2 cents.... handing thread back over now..... [/QUOTE]
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