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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 324502" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I tried the eye stuff a couple of monthsago, they were demonstrating it in the mall. And my eyes reacted. I did ask if there were preservatives in it, they couldn't tell me what was in it (which I tihnk is illegal in Australia - contents should be known).</p><p></p><p>Generally the more complex the ingredients, the happier they are to list them. So I take failure to disclose contents to mean - it is too easy to duplicate it at home. Also the under-eye stuff gets advertised on advertorial TV shows here, and the stuff that generally gets sold on these shows has to pay for the advertising somewhow - generally there's little to it.</p><p></p><p>I went home and showed husband. By then the stuff was beginning to crumble and look obvious. I explained how the stuff goes on - they dab it on very sparingly and lightly and while it dries you MUST NOT MOVE YOUR EYES or the change in shape makes the area under your eyes leave a wrinkle in this stuff.</p><p></p><p>Now, husband is a chemist. Not drug-store type, but chemistry chemist. So he looked closely and listend to my description, noted the shape of crystal formation and said, "I'm sure it's just magnesium sulfate..." (I think he said) "...which is epsom salts."</p><p>From my observation, it was in a cream base, a very light one. So if you made a moderately weak solution of epsom salts and mixed it with watered-down sorbolene (or some other inexpensive moisturiser) then applied it following the same directions, you could come close. Of course you must not get it in your eyes (same rules as the commercial stuff). But I'm going to have a try - and by doing it myself, I won't have to add preservatives.</p><p></p><p>Any home-made cosmetics without perservatives need to be kept refrigerated and also discarded as soon as they begin to go off. Monitor them for change in colour, smell or texture. Some need to be made fairly fresh, fairly frequently. But doing it this way should be inexpensive and be possible to make tiny amounts at a time. I mean - how long do you need to hang on to cucumber slices?</p><p></p><p>You know - I have seen, for sale, plastic circles made to look like slices of cucumber. The plastic ic impregnated with cucumber fragrance (artificial, not quite as good as the real thing). They are filled with a layer of antifreeze (or similar) so you put these in the fridge to chill, then put them on your eyes.</p><p>In other words - you buy some plastic stuff (which takes up space in the fridge and isn't real) which costs say, $5 a piece, instead of merely reaching into the fridge and slicing a fresh cucumber.</p><p></p><p>So may I suggest - using the expensive plastic substitute is not as effective and doesn't feel half so good, as using the real thing.</p><p></p><p>We tend to think of expensive spa treatents and professional make-up staff to be the ants pants, to set the benchmark. But what do they use? The real thing. Or some cobbled-together very effective alternative. When easy child 2/difficult child 2 & difficult child 1 were playing convicts in a TV mini-series, they had the best make-up team working on them, using all the tricks. Did they use prosthetic scabs, warts and scars on them? No. They used rice bubbles, glued on and squashed, for scabs. Absolutely brilliant.</p><p></p><p>Use the real stuff where you can. Just because it's inexpensive, doesn't mean it's cheap.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 324502, member: 1991"] I tried the eye stuff a couple of monthsago, they were demonstrating it in the mall. And my eyes reacted. I did ask if there were preservatives in it, they couldn't tell me what was in it (which I tihnk is illegal in Australia - contents should be known). Generally the more complex the ingredients, the happier they are to list them. So I take failure to disclose contents to mean - it is too easy to duplicate it at home. Also the under-eye stuff gets advertised on advertorial TV shows here, and the stuff that generally gets sold on these shows has to pay for the advertising somewhow - generally there's little to it. I went home and showed husband. By then the stuff was beginning to crumble and look obvious. I explained how the stuff goes on - they dab it on very sparingly and lightly and while it dries you MUST NOT MOVE YOUR EYES or the change in shape makes the area under your eyes leave a wrinkle in this stuff. Now, husband is a chemist. Not drug-store type, but chemistry chemist. So he looked closely and listend to my description, noted the shape of crystal formation and said, "I'm sure it's just magnesium sulfate..." (I think he said) "...which is epsom salts." From my observation, it was in a cream base, a very light one. So if you made a moderately weak solution of epsom salts and mixed it with watered-down sorbolene (or some other inexpensive moisturiser) then applied it following the same directions, you could come close. Of course you must not get it in your eyes (same rules as the commercial stuff). But I'm going to have a try - and by doing it myself, I won't have to add preservatives. Any home-made cosmetics without perservatives need to be kept refrigerated and also discarded as soon as they begin to go off. Monitor them for change in colour, smell or texture. Some need to be made fairly fresh, fairly frequently. But doing it this way should be inexpensive and be possible to make tiny amounts at a time. I mean - how long do you need to hang on to cucumber slices? You know - I have seen, for sale, plastic circles made to look like slices of cucumber. The plastic ic impregnated with cucumber fragrance (artificial, not quite as good as the real thing). They are filled with a layer of antifreeze (or similar) so you put these in the fridge to chill, then put them on your eyes. In other words - you buy some plastic stuff (which takes up space in the fridge and isn't real) which costs say, $5 a piece, instead of merely reaching into the fridge and slicing a fresh cucumber. So may I suggest - using the expensive plastic substitute is not as effective and doesn't feel half so good, as using the real thing. We tend to think of expensive spa treatents and professional make-up staff to be the ants pants, to set the benchmark. But what do they use? The real thing. Or some cobbled-together very effective alternative. When easy child 2/difficult child 2 & difficult child 1 were playing convicts in a TV mini-series, they had the best make-up team working on them, using all the tricks. Did they use prosthetic scabs, warts and scars on them? No. They used rice bubbles, glued on and squashed, for scabs. Absolutely brilliant. Use the real stuff where you can. Just because it's inexpensive, doesn't mean it's cheap. Marg [/QUOTE]
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