I've seen people mention this in their posts (specifically the one with the kid killing his mom), and wanted to bring it up because we are dealing with it right now. I think part of the reason we (my parents and my husband and I included) have some difficulty pulling back from my daughter is because of her ferocious presence. My parents would just assume give into her than to face her wrath. See, my daughter will show up on the doorstep. If you refuse her a ride, she will just show up. On the doorstep, or at work. My poor mom has been having to deal with the work one. The other night my daughter showed up, wanting money, in the middle of the night at my parent's home. It ended with an argument and my daughter spitting in my mother's face. That raises the concern for me. I don't know what I would do if she ever raised a hand to my mother. Though spitting at her is bad enough. So yesterday there are WINTER WARNINGS for ice and snow. We all told her NOT to go anywhere. But, the lure of her demon weed brings her to a friend's house and, she's "stranded" unable to get home. Dope-head friend down the street is "out of gas" and needs money to give her a ride home. She called my parent's phone at least three dozen times. Harassing, yelling. Bless their hearts, they didn't give in. Screamed at us and told us she was going to lose her job if she didn't get home to work in the morning. Buses weren't running. Long story short - she says that she's just going to come to our house; shows up on our doorstep. Ding-dong, ding-dong. It was freezing out. Raining ice pellets. Unsafe to be driving. My husband and I just looked at each other. He left her on the porch while the kids looked out the window at her standing there. Without anything spoken, they know the deal. Sad. Needless to say, she got her way. My husband drove her home. Better weather, and I think he would have left her there. She can't stay here, and we didn't want her inside the house, throwing a fit in front of her brothers. He said she was obviously high, staring into space. Little words were said. But, she got her way because for a concern over the alternative. How have you dealt with situations like this? Or have you? I'm curious as to how other people deal with the fear/concern of your difficult child's reaction to being told NO.