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<blockquote data-quote="slsh" data-source="post: 198809" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>Hi and welcome! Love your screen name! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>I'm just a mom, but I wonder if Metadate has the same potential for provoking raging in bipolar kids as Ritalin? (I'm sure some of the moms with better knowledge of medications will pop in with opinions on that.) We tried 2 doses of Ritalin on my son when he was 6, fortunately on a weekend, LOL. The first one provoked mega raging within 20 minutes. We thought it might be a fluke and tried 1 more time a week later - same response except this time knives and cut phone lines were involved. When I discussed it with his psychiatrist, she told me that was not an unheard of response in kids with bipolar, especially since the onset of raging was pretty promptly after the dose of Ritalin. Just a thought based on our own experience - could mean nothing in your kiddo though. Do you know history of bio family at all? That probably would help a whole lot if it is available.</p><p> </p><p>I have to say, the usual MO is for kids to have more problems at home than outside home, at least initially. I wonder if it's because you have an excellent grasp on how to manage his behaviors, while school staff.... not so much. I think it's very good you've request IEP evaluation because daily phone calls wear thin and are terribly unproductive in the long run. You're not at school and they really need to learn how to manage his behaviors. I would strongly recommend requesting a functional behavioral analysis (FBA) as part of IEP evaluation. The FBA tries to target behaviors and triggers, and then should be used to come up with a behavior management plan (BMP). </p><p> </p><p>One thing I would stop for now, and I know and totally understand that it probably runs against every parenting ideal you hold near and dear (it did for me), is punishing at home for school behaviors. Number one - it's a delayed consequence. Our kids, especially at age 6, need immediate reinforcers and consequences. If you punish at home 5 hours after the behavior, it kind of gets lost in translation. Also, school needs to deal with these behaviors, not call you about them so you can "fix" it. Number two - if his behaviors do start to cross over to home you may find yourself endlessly handing out consequences. It can get to be pretty ugly. School stuff needs to stay at school and they need to handle consequences - home stuff stays at home.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway - glad you found us!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slsh, post: 198809, member: 8"] Hi and welcome! Love your screen name! ;) I'm just a mom, but I wonder if Metadate has the same potential for provoking raging in bipolar kids as Ritalin? (I'm sure some of the moms with better knowledge of medications will pop in with opinions on that.) We tried 2 doses of Ritalin on my son when he was 6, fortunately on a weekend, LOL. The first one provoked mega raging within 20 minutes. We thought it might be a fluke and tried 1 more time a week later - same response except this time knives and cut phone lines were involved. When I discussed it with his psychiatrist, she told me that was not an unheard of response in kids with bipolar, especially since the onset of raging was pretty promptly after the dose of Ritalin. Just a thought based on our own experience - could mean nothing in your kiddo though. Do you know history of bio family at all? That probably would help a whole lot if it is available. I have to say, the usual MO is for kids to have more problems at home than outside home, at least initially. I wonder if it's because you have an excellent grasp on how to manage his behaviors, while school staff.... not so much. I think it's very good you've request IEP evaluation because daily phone calls wear thin and are terribly unproductive in the long run. You're not at school and they really need to learn how to manage his behaviors. I would strongly recommend requesting a functional behavioral analysis (FBA) as part of IEP evaluation. The FBA tries to target behaviors and triggers, and then should be used to come up with a behavior management plan (BMP). One thing I would stop for now, and I know and totally understand that it probably runs against every parenting ideal you hold near and dear (it did for me), is punishing at home for school behaviors. Number one - it's a delayed consequence. Our kids, especially at age 6, need immediate reinforcers and consequences. If you punish at home 5 hours after the behavior, it kind of gets lost in translation. Also, school needs to deal with these behaviors, not call you about them so you can "fix" it. Number two - if his behaviors do start to cross over to home you may find yourself endlessly handing out consequences. It can get to be pretty ugly. School stuff needs to stay at school and they need to handle consequences - home stuff stays at home. Anyway - glad you found us!!! [/QUOTE]
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