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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 75099" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I'm with Janet here - especially when dealing with professionals - educators and health professionals - you have to be scrupulous about using correct terminology.</p><p></p><p>You are really struggling here, and frankly, you need an expert to guide you in this. We've been down this road first with my sisters' kids when I was a student teacher, and then with my own kids. And I found that ideas change a lot as medicine gets more formally involved.</p><p></p><p>A true elimination diet is far more involved than just eliminating additives. We eliminated all artificial additives from the diets of my sisters' kids, and then from easy child (and even from my own diet, because easy child was also being breast-fed). We did find a food colouring sensitivity - tartrazine caused this little baby to have rages - unbelievable! And it continued as she got older and occasionally had tartrazine, even in medicines.</p><p></p><p>But that was her main problem - that, and dairy. She's OK now, so they weren't true allergies.</p><p></p><p>We first tried a true elimination diet with difficult child 1. By that stage I had discovered that there are a lot of naturally-occurring chemicals in good food, which must also be eliminated in the quest to find what causes a problem. The elimination diet is NOT a permanent thing to prevent problems forever; it's simply a short-term (a few weeks) diet to wash out any of these food chemicals from the child's system. You then test these foods, one by one. Because we were doing this through an allergy clinic, we were to test these with capsules of distilled salicylate, or amine. We never got that far because we found t he cause before then - the failure of the elimination diet to have the slightest impact on difficult child 3's apparent GI problems showed that it was not food-related. If not for the clinic, we could still be searching for problem foods and frustrating difficult child 3 to the point of cheating on his diet. because he knew it was short-term and for good reason, he was cooperative, even to helping me read food labels.</p><p></p><p>While you're shooting in the dark like this, it increases his lack of cooperation and makes the picture even more confusing. Some of the foods suggested - home-made lemonade, for example) are a total disaster on an elimination diet, because lemons are a high source of salicylate. So is honey. We actually had to steer away from honey and TOWARDS refined white sugar. Sounds paradoxic, but it was coming from the dietician.</p><p></p><p>The basic elimination diet is horrible and shouldn't be followed except under strict medical supervision - lamb, chicken cooked at home with no seasoning, no spices and skin removed; fresh pears, peeled; potatoes, peeled and cooked without flavouring (salt permitted); sugar, water. If you're going dairy free - nothing else permitted in the diet. NOTHING. Herbal tea maybe - but only chamomile. </p><p>This is not a balanced diet, which is why you can't ask a child to put up with it for more than the necessary few weeks. It is purgatory. But once you can prove that the problem food isn't salicylate, for example, but maybe amine instead - it suddenly becomes a lot easier. </p><p>Gluten is another nasty to check out - it's amazing how much you have to remove.</p><p></p><p>But do not do this without a dietician/allergist's supervision and support - I consider myself a reasonably intelligent, educated person and I found myself ringing the dietician help line for advice, constantly. I thought I could work it out for myself and I still needed help.</p><p></p><p>I've known people to fuss around the issue of allergies & sensitivities for years. Doing it properly with professional supervision really speeds up the process and you KNOW, fairly quickly, where the problems (if any) lie.</p><p></p><p>I said before - you will benefit from getting yourself a serious education on this, otherwise you are shooting in the dark. You will save time and a lot of anxiety. And hopefully, you will be able to give your child more specific information about what he can have, and what he can't. As he gets a better understanding (as well as an increased sense of freedom in other areas) he will hopefully be more cooperative.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 75099, member: 1991"] I'm with Janet here - especially when dealing with professionals - educators and health professionals - you have to be scrupulous about using correct terminology. You are really struggling here, and frankly, you need an expert to guide you in this. We've been down this road first with my sisters' kids when I was a student teacher, and then with my own kids. And I found that ideas change a lot as medicine gets more formally involved. A true elimination diet is far more involved than just eliminating additives. We eliminated all artificial additives from the diets of my sisters' kids, and then from easy child (and even from my own diet, because easy child was also being breast-fed). We did find a food colouring sensitivity - tartrazine caused this little baby to have rages - unbelievable! And it continued as she got older and occasionally had tartrazine, even in medicines. But that was her main problem - that, and dairy. She's OK now, so they weren't true allergies. We first tried a true elimination diet with difficult child 1. By that stage I had discovered that there are a lot of naturally-occurring chemicals in good food, which must also be eliminated in the quest to find what causes a problem. The elimination diet is NOT a permanent thing to prevent problems forever; it's simply a short-term (a few weeks) diet to wash out any of these food chemicals from the child's system. You then test these foods, one by one. Because we were doing this through an allergy clinic, we were to test these with capsules of distilled salicylate, or amine. We never got that far because we found t he cause before then - the failure of the elimination diet to have the slightest impact on difficult child 3's apparent GI problems showed that it was not food-related. If not for the clinic, we could still be searching for problem foods and frustrating difficult child 3 to the point of cheating on his diet. because he knew it was short-term and for good reason, he was cooperative, even to helping me read food labels. While you're shooting in the dark like this, it increases his lack of cooperation and makes the picture even more confusing. Some of the foods suggested - home-made lemonade, for example) are a total disaster on an elimination diet, because lemons are a high source of salicylate. So is honey. We actually had to steer away from honey and TOWARDS refined white sugar. Sounds paradoxic, but it was coming from the dietician. The basic elimination diet is horrible and shouldn't be followed except under strict medical supervision - lamb, chicken cooked at home with no seasoning, no spices and skin removed; fresh pears, peeled; potatoes, peeled and cooked without flavouring (salt permitted); sugar, water. If you're going dairy free - nothing else permitted in the diet. NOTHING. Herbal tea maybe - but only chamomile. This is not a balanced diet, which is why you can't ask a child to put up with it for more than the necessary few weeks. It is purgatory. But once you can prove that the problem food isn't salicylate, for example, but maybe amine instead - it suddenly becomes a lot easier. Gluten is another nasty to check out - it's amazing how much you have to remove. But do not do this without a dietician/allergist's supervision and support - I consider myself a reasonably intelligent, educated person and I found myself ringing the dietician help line for advice, constantly. I thought I could work it out for myself and I still needed help. I've known people to fuss around the issue of allergies & sensitivities for years. Doing it properly with professional supervision really speeds up the process and you KNOW, fairly quickly, where the problems (if any) lie. I said before - you will benefit from getting yourself a serious education on this, otherwise you are shooting in the dark. You will save time and a lot of anxiety. And hopefully, you will be able to give your child more specific information about what he can have, and what he can't. As he gets a better understanding (as well as an increased sense of freedom in other areas) he will hopefully be more cooperative. Marg [/QUOTE]
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