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<blockquote data-quote="OTE" data-source="post: 5439"><p>Your posts continue to be so familiar to me.... just like my difficult child. When mine isn't using, and pot is his drug of choice, he CAN be a delightful person to be with. Mine can also be obnoxious just by nature if he's not getting his way. But that's a whole other discussion.</p><p></p><p>I do want to repeat something I said a long time ago...pot exacerbates any underlying mental illness. So this is not a common reaction to pot except to mentally ill people. People with no mental illness react as you suggest that you did. The point is that it acts as a depressant to the non-mentally ill and a stimulant to BiPolar (BP) people. So when he says it makes him feel high, I doubt he's referring to the numbing effect that you experienced. He's referring to the fact that it makes him happy, energetic, excited. Many years ago my kid referred to it as being on a roller coaster 24/7.</p><p></p><p>in my humble opinion any stimulant for ADHD is still not a good idea. But the Zyprexa is great. It treats both mania and acts as a mood stabilizer. What I'm suggesting is that you keep up with the psychiatrist but also get him into psychotherapy to understand his own mental illness. In the long run if he doesn't accept and understand it, know what signs to look for in himself, it will always have control of him...drugs or not. The younger he is when he learns to cope with his own body the better the long term prognosis.</p><p></p><p>What I'm suggesting is that just like my difficult child, his drug use is not only addiction unto itself in whatever way the brains works to that effect, but also an attempt on the child's part to mask the symptoms of his mental illness. eg when he's not getting the "natural" high of his mania he is looking for the "high" (the excitement) in drugs. With mine, as bright as mine is, he also has LDs which are difficult to deal with, particularly in HS when they want him to write papers and reports. Living with those pressures is another reason mine gets high, to escape his problems in life. So learning through psychotherapy to cope with pressures head on rather than through escape is another life skill that may be helpful to yours.</p><p></p><p>Studies say that a good long term prognosis to mental illness AND to rehab requires several approaches simultaneously. So I strongly suggest psychotherapy for your son in addition to medication.</p><p></p><p>I'll try to say it another way...have you seen the more recent long term studies of people who have had the stomach stapling surgery. They maintain the lower weight but many end up with other kinds of addiction. When food is no longer a comfort, escape, they turn to other things like alcohol, drugs, gambling... So even if we can get our kids off drugs, they're still looking for another way to solve the feelings that contributed to the drug use in the first place. A 12 step program can serve as a form of psychotherapy and a support system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OTE, post: 5439"] Your posts continue to be so familiar to me.... just like my difficult child. When mine isn't using, and pot is his drug of choice, he CAN be a delightful person to be with. Mine can also be obnoxious just by nature if he's not getting his way. But that's a whole other discussion. I do want to repeat something I said a long time ago...pot exacerbates any underlying mental illness. So this is not a common reaction to pot except to mentally ill people. People with no mental illness react as you suggest that you did. The point is that it acts as a depressant to the non-mentally ill and a stimulant to BiPolar (BP) people. So when he says it makes him feel high, I doubt he's referring to the numbing effect that you experienced. He's referring to the fact that it makes him happy, energetic, excited. Many years ago my kid referred to it as being on a roller coaster 24/7. in my humble opinion any stimulant for ADHD is still not a good idea. But the Zyprexa is great. It treats both mania and acts as a mood stabilizer. What I'm suggesting is that you keep up with the psychiatrist but also get him into psychotherapy to understand his own mental illness. In the long run if he doesn't accept and understand it, know what signs to look for in himself, it will always have control of him...drugs or not. The younger he is when he learns to cope with his own body the better the long term prognosis. What I'm suggesting is that just like my difficult child, his drug use is not only addiction unto itself in whatever way the brains works to that effect, but also an attempt on the child's part to mask the symptoms of his mental illness. eg when he's not getting the "natural" high of his mania he is looking for the "high" (the excitement) in drugs. With mine, as bright as mine is, he also has LDs which are difficult to deal with, particularly in HS when they want him to write papers and reports. Living with those pressures is another reason mine gets high, to escape his problems in life. So learning through psychotherapy to cope with pressures head on rather than through escape is another life skill that may be helpful to yours. Studies say that a good long term prognosis to mental illness AND to rehab requires several approaches simultaneously. So I strongly suggest psychotherapy for your son in addition to medication. I'll try to say it another way...have you seen the more recent long term studies of people who have had the stomach stapling surgery. They maintain the lower weight but many end up with other kinds of addiction. When food is no longer a comfort, escape, they turn to other things like alcohol, drugs, gambling... So even if we can get our kids off drugs, they're still looking for another way to solve the feelings that contributed to the drug use in the first place. A 12 step program can serve as a form of psychotherapy and a support system. [/QUOTE]
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