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<blockquote data-quote="Ropefree" data-source="post: 224125" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>When I am having a difficult time with the present moment I "look back" to how I got where I am and where "we" got where "we" are...</p><p></p><p>I like the book "How you can Survive when they're depressed" by Anne Sheffield.</p><p></p><p>The good news is you are aware that your son is depressed. Self medicating</p><p>has been around a long time and that IS why it is still everywhere today.</p><p></p><p>The fact that he has 'been there and done that' and that he is SO depressed that he is still wanting to be at home. </p><p></p><p>I would look to the evaluation now with a well esteemed psyciatrist. It is a gift that your son is aware he has a problem and he is wanting help. </p><p></p><p>It use to be the adult or child with a disorder was hidden. I had one greatgreatuncle who lived in a chicken coop his entire adult life.</p><p></p><p>The fact that someone lacks intrests is a sign of depression. We like to label people as "lazy" ect rather than reflecting on the fact that they are </p><p>missing out on their oppertunities to enjoy everyday tasks and productivity.</p><p>It is especially sad today as the entire motivation is to earn money and for those who lack the intrest in life the very interactions with others that are essential to do that is to challenging.</p><p></p><p>Society does shun the depressive and mentally ill individual. Since the </p><p>70's their has been little effort to even bring them in from the cold weather.</p><p>The cost to treat these illnesses is inflated to unbelievably high levels when the "specialists" basicly are merely acting as pharmacutical technicians. It is so terribly sad that.</p><p></p><p>I think as a family you could thank your lucky stars that you have a adult son who does know he is needing help. He may not "get over it" quickly and it may require some effort and trial and error to help him to learn how to cope with the illness now and through his life.</p><p></p><p>I am wondering if the population density today and the access to education and the lack of jobs that occupy the low skill levels are in part how so many people are identified today. Infaltion makes the costs so high that it is an enourmous burden when a child or and adult is requiring care of any kind. </p><p></p><p>Getting a diagnosis and treatment may mean that your son will ultimately do better than one generation ago when a low paying job and alcoholism were the sustainance of untreated mental illness.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps he has some other underlining illness that has not been determined.</p><p>Food alergies, or some metablism issue, maybe he needs to get out and walk in the early morning everyday, and maybe you and your husband could engage him in such a routene. Good for him and good for you. Getting enough excersise and enough sleep and having productive activities can lead a person to the self awareness and the inner creative nature. </p><p></p><p>Anger shows fear and sadness and a person who is feeling angry needs incouragement. To be ill always feels scary. To be aware that one is facing a mental illness is lonily and scary and usually feels like there is no use.</p><p></p><p>I do not understand the society belief that at some magic age a son or daughter is "on their own" our streets are filled today with members of families that just do not give a wit about their offspring. ANd if he is so ill that he is unable to work you can do alot to get him into the system and into housing and the care he needs now and if it is a lifelong thing he won't have to loose what teeth and health he has now befor his needs are checked.</p><p></p><p>Mental ilness is not some inconvienance or a luxury item. it is real and left untreated it ruins a whole life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ropefree, post: 224125, member: 6271"] When I am having a difficult time with the present moment I "look back" to how I got where I am and where "we" got where "we" are... I like the book "How you can Survive when they're depressed" by Anne Sheffield. The good news is you are aware that your son is depressed. Self medicating has been around a long time and that IS why it is still everywhere today. The fact that he has 'been there and done that' and that he is SO depressed that he is still wanting to be at home. I would look to the evaluation now with a well esteemed psyciatrist. It is a gift that your son is aware he has a problem and he is wanting help. It use to be the adult or child with a disorder was hidden. I had one greatgreatuncle who lived in a chicken coop his entire adult life. The fact that someone lacks intrests is a sign of depression. We like to label people as "lazy" ect rather than reflecting on the fact that they are missing out on their oppertunities to enjoy everyday tasks and productivity. It is especially sad today as the entire motivation is to earn money and for those who lack the intrest in life the very interactions with others that are essential to do that is to challenging. Society does shun the depressive and mentally ill individual. Since the 70's their has been little effort to even bring them in from the cold weather. The cost to treat these illnesses is inflated to unbelievably high levels when the "specialists" basicly are merely acting as pharmacutical technicians. It is so terribly sad that. I think as a family you could thank your lucky stars that you have a adult son who does know he is needing help. He may not "get over it" quickly and it may require some effort and trial and error to help him to learn how to cope with the illness now and through his life. I am wondering if the population density today and the access to education and the lack of jobs that occupy the low skill levels are in part how so many people are identified today. Infaltion makes the costs so high that it is an enourmous burden when a child or and adult is requiring care of any kind. Getting a diagnosis and treatment may mean that your son will ultimately do better than one generation ago when a low paying job and alcoholism were the sustainance of untreated mental illness. Perhaps he has some other underlining illness that has not been determined. Food alergies, or some metablism issue, maybe he needs to get out and walk in the early morning everyday, and maybe you and your husband could engage him in such a routene. Good for him and good for you. Getting enough excersise and enough sleep and having productive activities can lead a person to the self awareness and the inner creative nature. Anger shows fear and sadness and a person who is feeling angry needs incouragement. To be ill always feels scary. To be aware that one is facing a mental illness is lonily and scary and usually feels like there is no use. I do not understand the society belief that at some magic age a son or daughter is "on their own" our streets are filled today with members of families that just do not give a wit about their offspring. ANd if he is so ill that he is unable to work you can do alot to get him into the system and into housing and the care he needs now and if it is a lifelong thing he won't have to loose what teeth and health he has now befor his needs are checked. Mental ilness is not some inconvienance or a luxury item. it is real and left untreated it ruins a whole life. [/QUOTE]
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