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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 497055" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Buddy, I totally trust you when you say he needs to lose his job. Just hearing about him with Q and the girl makes me afraid for all the kids at his mercy. I doubt that any adult in the school would tell him to stop and that scares me even more. Is there a way you can get it put in the IEP that this guy cannot touch Q under any circumstances?</p><p></p><p>Restraints are such a funny thing. They can be a very good, useful, needed tool but also can be abuse. Wiz was homeschooled for grades 3 and 4 because our district had him suicidal at 7yo. They were so backward, did things that were not okay when I was in school in the 70's and were WAY not okay in the 90s, but since he was "strange" it was okay to do them to him. We moved and I enrolled him in 5th grade in a sp ed class that was self contained. He had the option to go to the reg class any time he watned but he did that twice and told us that if he had to listen to "that idiot" he would end up hurting someone. He was talking about the teacher. Sadly, I agreed with-his assessment of the reg ed teacher. </p><p></p><p>We were blessed with the sp ed teacher and the aides. One teacher and 2 aides and 3 students in the room. SOme students that were mainstreamed, but in the class there were just the 3 for most of the year. Tehy were awesome. That year they did three therapeutic restraints. None of Wiz, thankfully. He did really well, and they were a HUGE help to us. Two years later the teacher went to another district for a better job. The new teacher triggered every kid every day. She and her new aides (she refused to work with the aides that had been there because they were the other teacher's aides and were "used" - not logical thinking, in my opinion because they were amazing at their jobs) averaged three restraints a day with just six kids in the class. A DAY. And she could not see how she was causing the restraints.</p><p></p><p>This guy sounds like he sees restraints as his primary job. That scares me and I hope the staff sees how wrong he is. Your lawyer may be able to make firing him a sound financial move for the district because he did not document what he did to Q and that is a HUGE HUGE HUGE violation. These have to be documented and put in the file and if it didn't happen and they admit it, then the logical question is how often has this guy done it and not written up the report, and then the question is was it really the right way to handle the situation? because if it was the right way to handle things, then it would get written up. </p><p></p><p>There is often no real reason to have to get physical with the kids. There was a girl with intermittent explosive disorder in my dad's last school (he retired about six yrs ago from teaching jr high). She could be walking down the hall hitting lockers, literally bouncing from one side of the hall to the other hitting things and hollering but if she saw my dad she stopped and smiled and walked nicely. Why? If I don't Mr. S will bite my neck.</p><p></p><p>My dad told at least half of his kids if they got out of line he would bite their neck. This was long before twilight and the vampire craze. He never would have, but the kids just didn't know. It was so cute to watch her, and some of the other kids.</p><p></p><p>Does Q listen to audiobooks? Have they tried those to help calm him? When Wiz was little my dad recorded Uncle Wiggily stories onto cassettes. We couldn't play them on the car stereo because hsi voice is deep and soothing and it put husband and I to sleep! But after we told him how they helped Wiz, he gave a copy to the sp ed teacher at his school and they found them very helpful. His voice is sort of similar to that of the dad on Happy Days and it was really really effective. The stories are so not stimulating, and not violent that they don't trigger that sort of thing(big problem we had with Wiz) and I know it was helpful for some of the kids in the psychiatric hospital when the therapist there played one for the room. (This was when Wiz spent 4 mos in a psychiatric hospital in 6th grade.) I wonder if something like that might be helpful with Q, esp when he is triggered by this aggressive school psychiatric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 497055, member: 1233"] Buddy, I totally trust you when you say he needs to lose his job. Just hearing about him with Q and the girl makes me afraid for all the kids at his mercy. I doubt that any adult in the school would tell him to stop and that scares me even more. Is there a way you can get it put in the IEP that this guy cannot touch Q under any circumstances? Restraints are such a funny thing. They can be a very good, useful, needed tool but also can be abuse. Wiz was homeschooled for grades 3 and 4 because our district had him suicidal at 7yo. They were so backward, did things that were not okay when I was in school in the 70's and were WAY not okay in the 90s, but since he was "strange" it was okay to do them to him. We moved and I enrolled him in 5th grade in a sp ed class that was self contained. He had the option to go to the reg class any time he watned but he did that twice and told us that if he had to listen to "that idiot" he would end up hurting someone. He was talking about the teacher. Sadly, I agreed with-his assessment of the reg ed teacher. We were blessed with the sp ed teacher and the aides. One teacher and 2 aides and 3 students in the room. SOme students that were mainstreamed, but in the class there were just the 3 for most of the year. Tehy were awesome. That year they did three therapeutic restraints. None of Wiz, thankfully. He did really well, and they were a HUGE help to us. Two years later the teacher went to another district for a better job. The new teacher triggered every kid every day. She and her new aides (she refused to work with the aides that had been there because they were the other teacher's aides and were "used" - not logical thinking, in my opinion because they were amazing at their jobs) averaged three restraints a day with just six kids in the class. A DAY. And she could not see how she was causing the restraints. This guy sounds like he sees restraints as his primary job. That scares me and I hope the staff sees how wrong he is. Your lawyer may be able to make firing him a sound financial move for the district because he did not document what he did to Q and that is a HUGE HUGE HUGE violation. These have to be documented and put in the file and if it didn't happen and they admit it, then the logical question is how often has this guy done it and not written up the report, and then the question is was it really the right way to handle the situation? because if it was the right way to handle things, then it would get written up. There is often no real reason to have to get physical with the kids. There was a girl with intermittent explosive disorder in my dad's last school (he retired about six yrs ago from teaching jr high). She could be walking down the hall hitting lockers, literally bouncing from one side of the hall to the other hitting things and hollering but if she saw my dad she stopped and smiled and walked nicely. Why? If I don't Mr. S will bite my neck. My dad told at least half of his kids if they got out of line he would bite their neck. This was long before twilight and the vampire craze. He never would have, but the kids just didn't know. It was so cute to watch her, and some of the other kids. Does Q listen to audiobooks? Have they tried those to help calm him? When Wiz was little my dad recorded Uncle Wiggily stories onto cassettes. We couldn't play them on the car stereo because hsi voice is deep and soothing and it put husband and I to sleep! But after we told him how they helped Wiz, he gave a copy to the sp ed teacher at his school and they found them very helpful. His voice is sort of similar to that of the dad on Happy Days and it was really really effective. The stories are so not stimulating, and not violent that they don't trigger that sort of thing(big problem we had with Wiz) and I know it was helpful for some of the kids in the psychiatric hospital when the therapist there played one for the room. (This was when Wiz spent 4 mos in a psychiatric hospital in 6th grade.) I wonder if something like that might be helpful with Q, esp when he is triggered by this aggressive school psychiatric. [/QUOTE]
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