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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 640788" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>If anyone has read Dr. Robert Hare, who did extensive research in antisocial personality disorder, you learn that their brains are wired differently.</p><p></p><p>There are actual brain imaging tests that point to psychopathology. When psychopathic people are shown highly distressing scenes, such as people getting beaten up or even blown up, or hurt, or children crying, they did not register any emotion. Heart rate did not accelerate. No signs of stress. Nothing. They were insensitive to it.</p><p></p><p>The average person would show distress by the chemicals in her/his brain, a faster heartbeat, even tearing up. I do not understand this test completely, but I'm sure it is online and explained on YouTube. I did see it once on the TV channel Investigative Discovery and it kept me pinned to the TV. The antisocial personality disordered people just didn't have the emotions others have and this is from childhood. They are trying to find a way to help non-empathetic children learn to have empathy so that they do not develop antisocial personality disorder, but so far there hasn't been much success. It seems to be inborn.</p><p></p><p>Being that the case, and it accepted far and wide in the scientific community of greater minds than ours, we CAN NOT blame ourselves that our grown children who have antisocial personality disorder is caused by our home environment. Now there is a biological component so maybe if we married or bred with a bad man, also a psychopath, our child inherited that from him, which is also not our fault. In general, we were not aware of this and did not want to think our partner had this personality quirk. In fact, antisocials can be the most charming people on earth when they want to charm others for their own advantage. That's why they shock us when they steal right under our noses. Or, out of the blue, their kind facade crumbles and they punch us in the nose and let us bleed on the floor. We trusted them because they acted so interested in us; so loving; so caring. It is all an act, of course. They watch how others behave and mimic it well. They seem to know what to say and do to gain our trust. THAT they are good at. Ever hear the saying "If it' seems to good to be true, it probably is?" Beware the ultra-charmer who can snap his fingers and gather a captive audience. He is playing a role and playing it TOO well. Nobody is THAT good for real.</p><p></p><p>When they hurt us it does not make them feel sad or remorseful. And although many antisocials mellow out as they age and do not engage in, say, as much criminal activity, they are always antisocial. Therapy doesn't help...they are not unhappy and do not want to change.</p><p></p><p>Again though NONE OF THIS IS OUR FAULTS. NONE!</p><p></p><p>What can we do to change a person who has no conscience or caring of rules of right and wrong and has this built into his brain? Many antisocials are very succesful in work, but often they start out that way then self-implode when they try to cheat somebody.</p><p></p><p>I wonder how nice it must feel to never experience guilt or to second guess what we do or to hurt for others. Heck, I cry when a dog has a broken leg let alone human suffering. In a way, they are lucky. These things do not give them any pause for pain. Another big trait is that most are very dare devilish, so that could be a positive as well. They do not worry about their safety. One very young man who was badly burned playing with explosives was interviewed in the hospital by local TV as he made the news. He was asked if he was taught a lesson. His answer was, "Oh, I'll go it again. I enjoy it." I forgot his name (my bad), but he ended up a serial killer in Australia.</p><p></p><p>And this is why they don't learn from their mistakes. Consequences, even being hurt, do not bother them like they do the rest of us. Most antisocials never kill anyone if only because they don't want to be locked in jail. But a very few do and can be dangerous. You know your own grown child and you probably know if he is antisocial. It is a step beyond borderline, in which there ARE emotions there, although some borderlines also hurt others and end up in jail and do not take blame gracefully. Personality disorders are very difficult to live with unless the person is very dedicated to changing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 640788, member: 1550"] If anyone has read Dr. Robert Hare, who did extensive research in antisocial personality disorder, you learn that their brains are wired differently. There are actual brain imaging tests that point to psychopathology. When psychopathic people are shown highly distressing scenes, such as people getting beaten up or even blown up, or hurt, or children crying, they did not register any emotion. Heart rate did not accelerate. No signs of stress. Nothing. They were insensitive to it. The average person would show distress by the chemicals in her/his brain, a faster heartbeat, even tearing up. I do not understand this test completely, but I'm sure it is online and explained on YouTube. I did see it once on the TV channel Investigative Discovery and it kept me pinned to the TV. The antisocial personality disordered people just didn't have the emotions others have and this is from childhood. They are trying to find a way to help non-empathetic children learn to have empathy so that they do not develop antisocial personality disorder, but so far there hasn't been much success. It seems to be inborn. Being that the case, and it accepted far and wide in the scientific community of greater minds than ours, we CAN NOT blame ourselves that our grown children who have antisocial personality disorder is caused by our home environment. Now there is a biological component so maybe if we married or bred with a bad man, also a psychopath, our child inherited that from him, which is also not our fault. In general, we were not aware of this and did not want to think our partner had this personality quirk. In fact, antisocials can be the most charming people on earth when they want to charm others for their own advantage. That's why they shock us when they steal right under our noses. Or, out of the blue, their kind facade crumbles and they punch us in the nose and let us bleed on the floor. We trusted them because they acted so interested in us; so loving; so caring. It is all an act, of course. They watch how others behave and mimic it well. They seem to know what to say and do to gain our trust. THAT they are good at. Ever hear the saying "If it' seems to good to be true, it probably is?" Beware the ultra-charmer who can snap his fingers and gather a captive audience. He is playing a role and playing it TOO well. Nobody is THAT good for real. When they hurt us it does not make them feel sad or remorseful. And although many antisocials mellow out as they age and do not engage in, say, as much criminal activity, they are always antisocial. Therapy doesn't help...they are not unhappy and do not want to change. Again though NONE OF THIS IS OUR FAULTS. NONE! What can we do to change a person who has no conscience or caring of rules of right and wrong and has this built into his brain? Many antisocials are very succesful in work, but often they start out that way then self-implode when they try to cheat somebody. I wonder how nice it must feel to never experience guilt or to second guess what we do or to hurt for others. Heck, I cry when a dog has a broken leg let alone human suffering. In a way, they are lucky. These things do not give them any pause for pain. Another big trait is that most are very dare devilish, so that could be a positive as well. They do not worry about their safety. One very young man who was badly burned playing with explosives was interviewed in the hospital by local TV as he made the news. He was asked if he was taught a lesson. His answer was, "Oh, I'll go it again. I enjoy it." I forgot his name (my bad), but he ended up a serial killer in Australia. And this is why they don't learn from their mistakes. Consequences, even being hurt, do not bother them like they do the rest of us. Most antisocials never kill anyone if only because they don't want to be locked in jail. But a very few do and can be dangerous. You know your own grown child and you probably know if he is antisocial. It is a step beyond borderline, in which there ARE emotions there, although some borderlines also hurt others and end up in jail and do not take blame gracefully. Personality disorders are very difficult to live with unless the person is very dedicated to changing. [/QUOTE]
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