Heard this on TV: hand santizer

[witzend]

We use the towelettes for when we travel or are out. It seems less rude to wipe your hands off before you eat in a restaurant than to pull out the bottle and start passing around as though you all need to share what a filthy place you think that you are in. They're TSA approved, so no problems on an airplane. They're lighter, too. We haven't bought a bottle of hand sanitizer in years.

 

[Tiapet]

I too saw this last night. What is this world coming to? We have huffing, all the various things used for that that were once innocent household items (glue, sharpies, paint, etc.). We have alcohol content items that were innocent (breath strips, mouth wash, etc). All the other things that were once just simple innocent items!

It's just like with food items that they say are bad for you as well. Once innocent and now bad. Yes, kind of different but yet not. I feel like we are getting to the point of living in a bubble. They wonder why people get paranoid or parents get over protective. There is just so much to have to think about anymore. It's not so simple like it was back in the day, even in "our" time let alone our parent's time.

Factor in so many other things and yes, this is getting to be a pretty scary world sometimes I think.

 

[donna723]

This might be one of those things that not a lot of people were doing ... then it's on the news and on YouTube and all the kids want to jump on the bandwagon because now they think it's "cool" and want to try it. But to me, if a kid wants alcohol, there's a lot of easier ways to get it than this. Publicize it enough and they'll all be wanting to try it!

People have always done some really dumb, dangerous things! More and more candidates for the Darwin Awards ... those people who raise the quality of the human race by voluntarily removing themselves from the gene pool at an early age. I think George Carlin was right all along.

 

[AnnieO]

You know society's in trouble when there are directions on an individual package of toothpicks...

 

[skeeter]

The ethanol in hand sanitizer (most are 62%) is DENATURED ethanol. That means there is a small amount of isopropanol and / or methanol in it. It is not the same ethanol that should be consumed (that's what the denatured part means). If it was "drinking" grade ethanol it would be taxed and regulated. The entire point of denaturing it is to try and prevent consumption of it.

 

[DammitJanet]

Exactly skeeter...thats why its even more dangerous. We also have ethanol in our gas. They shouldnt be drinking that either. Also what about all the fragrance and other koi in there? There are some towelettes called Sanihands I think for kids. I have seen them here. They fit in the cup holder of a car.

 

[susiestar]

I mostly hate hand sanitizer because it flares my psoriasis something awful. I mostly don't even bathe often because when I do I get huge gaping sores that scab and leave permanent scars. But I won't buy antibacterial baby wipes. I just can't get wet often. Washing dishes even with gloves makes my hands useless.

My mom gave us 3 bottles of sanitizer about a year ago because a closeout place had them for a nickel. I didn't have the heart to tell her I already had about the last six or seven bottles of it she gave us. She loves the stuff. I carry a bottle of plain old isopropyl alcohol in my purse for glasses cleaning and for times when I need to clean hands in a restroom with-o soap/water etc... Well, I also use it on toilet seats and shopping carts after six of us on my dorm floor got an STD from another girl who peed on the seats and just wiped it around. Yes, contrary to what the scientists say, you CAN get STDs that way. Living proof - no sexual experience when I got them. Talk about horrifying you! It was NOT something I had fun explaining to my mother, either. But having six geeky females on an honor floor all get the same STD and the health ctr traced it to the ho down the hall (her dad made porn films and she regularly brought 2-3 strangers home a night - eeeeuuuuuuwwwwww) and let us know because it was just so strange, well, I spray down toilet seats to this day and so does my daughter and my mom.

But I think if you are dumb enough to drink the stuff then maybe you deserve whatever happens to you. Thank G-D I am not the only one to think that way!

I cannot even imagine the pain of an alcohol soaked tampon. THe very thought of alcohol there blows my mind!!! But people are stupid and probably will live to breed and pass on that stupidity. We can only hope that smarter genes are dominant, I guess.

 

[Star*]

Well you know how my brain works - or doesn't......and I'm sitting there with DF watching this on GMA the other morning and they show the teenager turning his head under a pump dispenser of hand sanitizer......and the reporter says "Kids are using this to get high." I'm not quite awake yet and DF said "Morons." and all I could come up with was "DIRTY MOUTH? - clean it up" in my worst English accent." and DF spit coffee all over the table.

I'm sorry but if YOUR kid is going to be THAT stupid? I'm going to be THAT sarcastic at 8:15 in the morning.

Oh groan ------you know it was about () funny.

 

[susiestar]

Star - that was PRICELESS!!!! I love it!!

 

[Star*]

You're welcome. The thing that gets me the most, and maybe I'm in a bad mood or maybe I'm just so jaded anymore where sense and sensibility used to be logic has run screaming for the hills - but hear me out.

When we were younger and I'm 4.....T something hahaha. Okay I'm 47. I can remember MY Mother and she was a GREAT Mom, buying Lava soap. I can also remember NOTHING -and I mean NOTHING in our house havning safety seals, or child proof caps. And I'm not going to debate whether I think helmets for bicycles are good or not - I never wore one, took many spills and I'm just fine. (LOOKS AROUND WITH MENACING EYES) HOWEVER when we used swear or curse words we KNEW without a doubt the next words out of my Mothers mouth were "STAR! I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap." and there was no threat to that. If she said it? You got it. She didn't forget, she didn't have to wait until she got done typing an email, she said it, she GOT UP, and you got a bar of LAVA raked across your teeth from back to front, and then you got "THE SPEECH" about using ugly words with such a pretty mouth, how ladies didn't talk like that, SHE didn't use words like that, WE never heard words like that in OUR home, and BY GOLLY she was right - Even my Father was forbidden from swearing because once he had daughters? It wasn't proper and she was HAVING NONE.OF.IT and if she was going to make this much of an all around effort? You had better believe she was following through if we said the D word, the S word, the H word. At that time those were the big three. We didn't know any others. Never heard any others. Until school and then school added the B word, and if you used THAT one? You got soap AND your Fathers wrath. Because that was against your Mother and well - that wasn't even done. So ------with that mentality in mind? We lived a nice, lady-like life.

No one EVER considered picking up the phone and calling the police to say "Hello officer, I just called my Mom a B, she raked Lava across my teeth, and now my father is going to give me a talking to when I get home and I probably will go to bed without supper - COME SAVE ME." It would have been laughable. Even IF I had called and said "MY Mother is spanking me and putting soap in my mouth? No one would have rolled up in a cruiser with CPS and took me away. I DISOBEYED the house rules, I got punished END.OF.STORY.

SO NOW? Kids are PUTTING soap in their mouth....or rather SANITIZER? and no one is calling the police? Or the police are being called and they are doing NOTHING? I don't get it. I'm not that old, but IF a PARENT in these times did this? And a child called? That kid would be in CPS custody, the parent would be in jail under tons of abuse charges, and the story would be on the front page! But let the kid down a bottle of Purel on his own and hes a sensation with his pals, his parents are fed up, and the authorities do nothing.

I can't IMAGINE ever walking into the bathroom 40 years ago and holding out a bar of soap and thinking "OKAY I'm going to PURPOSELY eat this and lets see what it does." My thoughts are leaning towards the kids that are doing this have HAD to have eaten SOMETHING before the hand sanitizer that burned out the majority of their FORMER brain cells, and turned them into goats that will eat near anything. Whats next Massengil? I mean may as well......they're already calling each other douches.

Dumb@##.

 

[DammitJanet]

Star...priceless! I dont think my parents ever used soap but I tried it once on Cory and if I could rewind time, he would have had more dawn dish soap in his mouth than he had food I am betting.

One of my biggest regrets is that we didnt curb Cory's cursing when he was a child. Now it is such an ingrained part of him it is like trying to stop him from breathing. It is causing him so many problems. I dont know how to help him and he wants to stop but when he gets in the heat of the moment, those words just pop out. We were completely mislead by idiotic therapists years ago. I should have never listened to them.

 

[Star*]

Dude used to swear and still does. His favorite word is the F word. Oddly enough it's my X's favorite word. I told him he sounds JUST.LIKE.HIS.BIODAD...GOSH the similarities. That stopped a lot of it.

THen I said - Every time he talked to me------And said it? NAHHHHHH each time he used it? I interrupeted him and said "YOu're going to be a Daddy soon you'd better stop all the sewer mouth NOW because I will NOT NOT NOT have a granddaughter that says "GET ME SOME FKN Cheerios Gwammy." and IF I DO? I"m going to smack YOU. I said 'When you were little your idiot biofather encouraged you to curse and swear because HE thought it was cute. (Dude said well it was) I said "NO it wasn't it was another way that IDIOT showed he had CONTROL over YOU." NOW show that you have some control over YOURSELF and stop. Say different words - Instead of STFU ? Use that SHUT THE FRONT DOOR.......and EVENTUALLY stop all together ------YOU KNOW what you are saying WHEN you say it. STOP. Don't say replacement words - JUST don't say anything. Lisetn to the leaders of the world - DO they have to use EXPLETIVES to get their point across ALL.THE.TIME? EVERY.DAY? Nope. Am I any less smart than them? Not really. Different smart. Not less smart.

So make it a choice. I'm trying to curb it too.....after raising a difficult child? A lot of it has become a bad habit, but I'm trying to realize it and clean it up - I do NOT need ghetto mouth to make a point. I'm more educated than that - and even if I'm NOT more educated - even if I have not a penny to my name? Manners are FREE - utterly and TOTALLY free. That I can do, and so can DUde and so can CORY - and he'll either get it with or without a full set of teeth - bcause if my Granddaughter says the F word? I'm going to say a few words myself. And no one is going to like the ones that come out of MY mouth.

 

[susiestar]

WHY do people think it is cute to hear a little kid cuss?? I admit I cussed like a sailor when I was in elem school. The big kids on the bus taught us to. My parents told me they expected that I was smart enough to not even TRY it around them or any other adult. Out back behind the barn with the other kids? Was up to me but they had better NEVER have some adult come tell them that I used a curse word. That threat out of my mom's mouth was MORE than enough to curb my tongue. That woman is terrifying when she gets creative. NOTHING sparks her creativity more than a bad habit that the normal consequences doeesn't fix. NOTHING. Have I told y'all about the time when gfgbro kept sleeping in the den watching skinemax in the nude? WOuld fall asleep on the floor in there in his birthday suit and we would find him in the morning? One day my mother applied duct tape too his entire leg - ALLLLLLLL the way up and not one long piece. Short pieces put on horizontally. And then woke him up when he had about ten min to get to work. So he couldn't soak off the tape and have it come off easy. He had to rip it off and trust me, the inner thigh up high is sensitive skin. I know cause he yowled in pain and then was asking me what to put on it to make it stop hurting. (I gave him some aloe with alcohol in it cause he was making me mad too - it was not fun to walk into the den in the morning and see him. YUCK.

That was just ONE of her creative consequences - after fighting with him and quite a few other creative things. She is SCARY. I admire that in a Momma, ya know?

But as long as I didn't cuss around adults my parents didn't worry about it. But when Wiz was little I said a cuss word ONE time - we didn't even know he could speak understandably yet - and a month later he crawled around my in-laws living room saying it over and over. I have NEVER been so EMBARRASSED. I still don't know if I said it, I think I did when I dropped something on my toe, or if it was a plumber bc we had one I had to kick out because he was dropping the F word every ten seconds at the top of his lungs. But regardless of where Wiz got it, it was AWFUL!!

WHY do people think that is funny?

As to the drinking sanitizer, it seems so stupid, esp as booze is not that hard to come by. Not even for most kids. I would knock one of my kids plumb out if I caught them doing that. Just smack them into next week - probably before I thought. Just because it is such a dumb stupid dangerous thing to do. And a total safety no-no.

Personally, I think these girls using alcohol soaked tampons are going to have great trouble when they decide to have babies and/or sex. It HAS to cause scarring that that can truly interfere with things.

 

[AnnieO]

My first word was my last name, which is pretty impressive.

My second word? I did it - then while Mom changed my diaper I said it. In front of her parents. They liked Lava soap, too. Mom says she thought she was just going to die of mortification.

I still don't cuss much around my parents... And I have a mouth like a sailor.

As for those alcohol-soaked tampons? OWWWWWWW! And... They expand... How to they get 'em IN? Regardless. That skin is super sensitive at least on the outside. I couldn't get past that.

 

[witzend]

The ethanol in hand sanitizer (most are 62%) is DENATURED ethanol. That means there is a small amount of isopropanol and / or methanol in it. It is not the same ethanol that should be consumed (that's what the denatured part means). If it was "drinking" grade ethanol it would be taxed and regulated. The entire point of denaturing it is to try and prevent consumption of it.

Sadly, kids aren't all that good at science when they want to get high...

 

[witzend]

As for those alcohol-soaked tampons? OWWWWWWW! And... They expand... How to they get 'em IN? Regardless. That skin is super sensitive at least on the outside. I couldn't get past that.

I'd have to hunt it down, but somewhere I read this blog post by this woman who was a "concerned mom of a teen" who wanted to see if this was really doable. After about 15 seconds she decided that it was highly unlikely that ANYONE would do that to get high, especially a young girl. Apparently it was beyond extremely painful.

 

[susiestar]

They leave the tampon in the applicator as they soak it in alcohol. The OB/GYN I love spoke about this as he had patients who were high school age who had done this. If your body is craving alcohol, you will do anything to get it. People who want to be high that bad just do not care if it hurts. Look at the fools doing eyeball shots - where they put everclear or vodka in an eyewash cup and dump it in their eyes. THis really happens too - they have had problems with both at the college here.

Those of us who think it would hurt horribly would NEVER do something like that to get high. We also would not stick needles filled with drugs made and cut by gangsters and thugs into our veins, or share those needles or reuse them. But addicts do those things ALL the time, many times a day. So the fact that a mom tried it and wouldn't do it doesn't mean much. It means that a sober person wouldn't do it, not that an addict woudln't.

 

[AnnieO]

Good point... But... I'm Scrooge. I buy the ones in cardboard applicators. So...

I asked Onyxx about this and she actually whimpered. She told me alcohol wasn't so much of her thing, and that just sounded bizarre. Oh, and that she didn't care if we saw/smelled her drunk or high... She does now, but then, so many things have changed...

 

[Star*]

These kids are drinking purell and doing tampax shooters but yet if we SPANK them they call the law and WE are the problem in society? NOPE. GOSH I'm a genius. The next time one of these NEWTONS wants to "feel something" they should become vaginal or penile cutters, and then put hand sanitizer on it followed by an alcohol shot to the eye. THAT should give them some FEELINGS.