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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 213817" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>Hi dandrews, welcome.</p><p> </p><p>I have a good friend who has Asperger's and he was on ADHD medications for a long time, but weaned himself off of them. He is 18 and no longer on them. He is highly trained by his mom (she is a workhorse!!!) and can make good eye contact and function well in society. He drives well. (Road rules are rules and most Aspies like those types of rules. However, they do not like other rules and can make up their own. Like, they aren't breaking into a house if the door is unlocked.) He is horrid at math (the opposite of Rain Man) but good at computers and has pretty good people skills, as long as the people don't try to manipulate him, because he's pretty naive to all of that. He's generally a happy adult, but as a child, had rages and tantrums and was always hyper, hyper, hyper. He's got the typical accent (everyone thinks he's from the upper E. Coast, LOL!) and is a bit "stiff" in his body language.</p><p> </p><p>Asperger's and bipolar have a lot of similarities in kids. Bipolar mixed states can mimick Asperger's and vice versa. </p><p> </p><p>Both spectrum disorders require lots of sleep and strict routines for the kids. I've got several books on my shelves about Asperger's, and regardless whether my son has it, the ideas and tools suggested in the book work very well for him. </p><p> </p><p>13 is a pretty good age to figure out which way your daugher is going. You didn't post your city, but if you're in a big city, you should be able to find a good neuropsychologist who can do testing. Do NOT do the 4-min interview like I started with--a total waste of time. You want the long testing that takes all day.</p><p> </p><p>My son's psychoeducational testing is ready and we meet with-the dr in the a.m. (Thus, I am wired and can't sleep!!!!)</p><p>After that, we send the results to a psychiatrist, who will offer her own opinion. Every discipline has their own opinion so be prepared for a long path. </p><p> </p><p>One thing that this dr suggested was for me to watch The Big Bang Theory on Monday nights. It's hysterical. It's 4 brilliant geeks who live across the hall from a blonde bombshell, and the interaction is great. One of them is pretty typical Aspie--talks like a scientist and couldn't care less about hurting other people's feelings, it's all about the facts. One character is more sympathetic but definitely a nerd, and the others fit in between somewhere. They all wear nerd clothes and couldn't care less what they look like, or dress the way they think is cool, but never "get it." </p><p>(My son fits that mold. He doesn't care if he's wearing high water pants, white socks and a shirt with-a huge hole in it, as long as he has access to a computer game.)</p><p> </p><p>on the other hand, his rages don't always fit an Aspie profile. Aspies tend to get super frustrated when they can't achieve something, and when their routines are disrupted. But with-my difficult child, often I can see a rage coming days in advance. It's like a black cloud that gets worse and worse and them BAM! he explodes. Afterward, he is remorseful, and very tired and wants to sleep. That's more bipolar. </p><p>He could very well be both.</p><p> </p><p>I hope that helps a bit.</p><p> </p><p>I want to reiterate that the type of dr you have will affect your child's diagnosis. Asperger's is neurological. Bipolar is chemical. Psychologists often miss Asperger's, and some psychiatrists do, too. Specially trained neurologists with-training in psychiatry are generally the best at identifying it, in my humble opinion.</p><p> </p><p>Best of luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 213817, member: 3419"] Hi dandrews, welcome. I have a good friend who has Asperger's and he was on ADHD medications for a long time, but weaned himself off of them. He is 18 and no longer on them. He is highly trained by his mom (she is a workhorse!!!) and can make good eye contact and function well in society. He drives well. (Road rules are rules and most Aspies like those types of rules. However, they do not like other rules and can make up their own. Like, they aren't breaking into a house if the door is unlocked.) He is horrid at math (the opposite of Rain Man) but good at computers and has pretty good people skills, as long as the people don't try to manipulate him, because he's pretty naive to all of that. He's generally a happy adult, but as a child, had rages and tantrums and was always hyper, hyper, hyper. He's got the typical accent (everyone thinks he's from the upper E. Coast, LOL!) and is a bit "stiff" in his body language. Asperger's and bipolar have a lot of similarities in kids. Bipolar mixed states can mimick Asperger's and vice versa. Both spectrum disorders require lots of sleep and strict routines for the kids. I've got several books on my shelves about Asperger's, and regardless whether my son has it, the ideas and tools suggested in the book work very well for him. 13 is a pretty good age to figure out which way your daugher is going. You didn't post your city, but if you're in a big city, you should be able to find a good neuropsychologist who can do testing. Do NOT do the 4-min interview like I started with--a total waste of time. You want the long testing that takes all day. My son's psychoeducational testing is ready and we meet with-the dr in the a.m. (Thus, I am wired and can't sleep!!!!) After that, we send the results to a psychiatrist, who will offer her own opinion. Every discipline has their own opinion so be prepared for a long path. One thing that this dr suggested was for me to watch The Big Bang Theory on Monday nights. It's hysterical. It's 4 brilliant geeks who live across the hall from a blonde bombshell, and the interaction is great. One of them is pretty typical Aspie--talks like a scientist and couldn't care less about hurting other people's feelings, it's all about the facts. One character is more sympathetic but definitely a nerd, and the others fit in between somewhere. They all wear nerd clothes and couldn't care less what they look like, or dress the way they think is cool, but never "get it." (My son fits that mold. He doesn't care if he's wearing high water pants, white socks and a shirt with-a huge hole in it, as long as he has access to a computer game.) on the other hand, his rages don't always fit an Aspie profile. Aspies tend to get super frustrated when they can't achieve something, and when their routines are disrupted. But with-my difficult child, often I can see a rage coming days in advance. It's like a black cloud that gets worse and worse and them BAM! he explodes. Afterward, he is remorseful, and very tired and wants to sleep. That's more bipolar. He could very well be both. I hope that helps a bit. I want to reiterate that the type of dr you have will affect your child's diagnosis. Asperger's is neurological. Bipolar is chemical. Psychologists often miss Asperger's, and some psychiatrists do, too. Specially trained neurologists with-training in psychiatry are generally the best at identifying it, in my humble opinion. Best of luck! [/QUOTE]
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