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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 446344" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>the emotional lability on stimulant - we have seen this with our boys on ritalin but not on dexamphetamine. A friend of difficult child 3's has this problem on ritalin (and of course Concerta - it's the same drug, just delivered differently).</p><p></p><p>I hear about rebound problems on ritalin so often I'm wondering if it's commonplace. I do remember difficult child 1 apparently cycling, ping-ponging from calm and coping to violent and dangerous. This would happen with every dose during the day (before Concerta was available here, he had to take ritalin every 2 hours at school and if a dose was even a little late...). I defy the most stable adult to be able to cope with such drastic changes so many times in the day.</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking maybe investigating a totally different stimulant could be the way to go; you're piling in more medications which may be trying tyo help with other problems, but if all you are trying to do is compensate for the stimulant's side effects, you will get stuck in a vicious circle of piling on more medications to cope with the increasing side effects of the more medications... we just did this with difficult child 3 in the last year, with the anti-anxiety medications he was on. It totally messed up his ability to lay down memory (ie no chance of learning any schoolwork) and so the doctor increased his stims to help him concentrate better. All we had to do was stop the anti-anxiety medications, but of course this pushes his anxiety back up. So difficult child 3 has gotten inventive about how to manage his anxiety - he carries a teething ring and chews it in order to avoid chewing his lip or his clothes. Not the best option, but far better than we've had.</p><p></p><p>With the obsession with lighters etc - difficult child 1 did this. We kept finding cans of lighter fluid and lighters, in his bed. Or under the couch. We kept confiscating it all, stashed it in our own spot and for years I never ran out of anything I needed to light the barbecue. His best friends were doing similar things, I found out. One poured lighter fluid over his hand and set fire to it, to see what would happen. They did this ins the school yard... admittedly, he only ever did it once. They all learned that it was not a good idea!</p><p></p><p>Part of the consequences you can use, is to get your son to write a letter of apology to the man whose garden he tried to ignite. It is necessary to face the issue head on, but it will be something he does not want to do; they would rather pretend it never happened and hope it will all go away if they ignore it.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 446344, member: 1991"] the emotional lability on stimulant - we have seen this with our boys on ritalin but not on dexamphetamine. A friend of difficult child 3's has this problem on ritalin (and of course Concerta - it's the same drug, just delivered differently). I hear about rebound problems on ritalin so often I'm wondering if it's commonplace. I do remember difficult child 1 apparently cycling, ping-ponging from calm and coping to violent and dangerous. This would happen with every dose during the day (before Concerta was available here, he had to take ritalin every 2 hours at school and if a dose was even a little late...). I defy the most stable adult to be able to cope with such drastic changes so many times in the day. I'm thinking maybe investigating a totally different stimulant could be the way to go; you're piling in more medications which may be trying tyo help with other problems, but if all you are trying to do is compensate for the stimulant's side effects, you will get stuck in a vicious circle of piling on more medications to cope with the increasing side effects of the more medications... we just did this with difficult child 3 in the last year, with the anti-anxiety medications he was on. It totally messed up his ability to lay down memory (ie no chance of learning any schoolwork) and so the doctor increased his stims to help him concentrate better. All we had to do was stop the anti-anxiety medications, but of course this pushes his anxiety back up. So difficult child 3 has gotten inventive about how to manage his anxiety - he carries a teething ring and chews it in order to avoid chewing his lip or his clothes. Not the best option, but far better than we've had. With the obsession with lighters etc - difficult child 1 did this. We kept finding cans of lighter fluid and lighters, in his bed. Or under the couch. We kept confiscating it all, stashed it in our own spot and for years I never ran out of anything I needed to light the barbecue. His best friends were doing similar things, I found out. One poured lighter fluid over his hand and set fire to it, to see what would happen. They did this ins the school yard... admittedly, he only ever did it once. They all learned that it was not a good idea! Part of the consequences you can use, is to get your son to write a letter of apology to the man whose garden he tried to ignite. It is necessary to face the issue head on, but it will be something he does not want to do; they would rather pretend it never happened and hope it will all go away if they ignore it. Marg [/QUOTE]
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