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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 567635" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>While this isn't something I have heard many people talk about, it seems to me that it would be a logical thing to have happen. Not a healthy thing, but a logical problem. I can see how someone who is having a hard time coping and wanting more support could reveal a sub abuse problem to get parents or loved ones or even their insurance company and doctors to give them physical, emotional and financial support. Sort of a Munchausen's syndrome with a substance abuse angle. Rather like false sexual assault/abuse allegations. </p><p></p><p>By claiming to have a sub abuse problem, you get family willing to let go of bad behavior, to spend thousands to let you go somewhere for a few weeks/months for rehab and then more money to let you live in a sober house and to attend further treatment. People are willing to babysit your kids so that you can go to meetings and they don't complain even if you need babysitting every night or a ride every night. You get interesting, dramatic people to spend time with at meetings and therapy sessions. You have people changing their behavior so that you don't feel uncomfortable. </p><p></p><p>If people don't change their behavior around you, you can have a big ole hissy fit and claim they don't love you and they want you to relapse. You can behave VERY badly and have people forgive you very fast as long as you claim to have relapsed. You can even get criminal behavior either not reported if it involved loved one or you can get the courts to pay for rehab and not put you in jail. You can get that to happen one time in one jurisdiction and if you move around enough you can get this done more than once. I know addicts who have had theft, prostitution and even child neglect excused time and time again as long as they get 'treatment'. </p><p></p><p>Often parents will not make you leave home or they will let you come back home so that you don't have so much pressure and you can go to more meetings and can embrace sober life. You don't have to work because your job now is 'recovery', so you get some or all expenses paid with very few requirements to fulfill. </p><p></p><p>I can completely see why someone might do this. It wouldn't be that hard to do, in my opinion. Generally if you claim sub abuse people then look at your past behavior and attribute any/all bad, criminal or socially inappropriate behavior to your sub abuse problems. Just like if you take someone totally sane and send them to a psychiatric hospital, they usually end up with some diagnosis regardless of what symptoms they do or do not report. There have been more than a few researchers and journalists who have done this and gotten the same results.</p><p></p><p>I don't really know how you should handle this. Follow your instincts as they are a parent's best guideline to handling kids, in my opinion. I do know that for a while my bro claimed to have been a victim of something esp horrid and later, during rehab, he confessed to making it all up. I wasn't surprised because the person he accused, who did this to other people, was in another part of the country when he claimed it happened. He pulled the name from a news article or three. This was one of the most devastating things he revealed to my parents. to have him lie on that scale about this issue completely threw my parents into pain, confusion and devastation. in my opinion it was harder to hear this than to hear his claim of abuse, at least for my parents.</p><p></p><p>I think that few rehabs would admit this is a problem because they either care more about the insurance money than the patient or they think the claim is false. I know several people hwo work in rehabs that think that every person on the planet is addicted to something. At one point one of these people tried to convince my family that I was addicted to books. This person thought I needed inpatient treatment for 90 days to recover from this. I was working full time, parenting without major problems, active in my community, and this person had actually never even spoken to me. She 'knew' I was addicted because I usually had a book to read when I took the kids to the playground. Period. That was her entire argument. My mother laughed at her. </p><p></p><p>Rehab IS big business here in the US. Sub abuse is a huge problem, esp as some rx medication use is now considered abuse in some areas even if it is prescribed and monitored by a doctor and the medications are taken exactly as prescribed. I am sure there are places that would cover up any instances of false addiction claims simply because it would hurt the bottom line. I also think there are MANY sub abuse treatment providers who would claim that statements like your daughter made are a symptom of denial and this would make them think her sub abuse problems were bigger and more serious than your daughter has claimed when she was claiming the sub abuse problems. I don't have a clue how to figure out how to identify and handle this issue reliably.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 567635, member: 1233"] While this isn't something I have heard many people talk about, it seems to me that it would be a logical thing to have happen. Not a healthy thing, but a logical problem. I can see how someone who is having a hard time coping and wanting more support could reveal a sub abuse problem to get parents or loved ones or even their insurance company and doctors to give them physical, emotional and financial support. Sort of a Munchausen's syndrome with a substance abuse angle. Rather like false sexual assault/abuse allegations. By claiming to have a sub abuse problem, you get family willing to let go of bad behavior, to spend thousands to let you go somewhere for a few weeks/months for rehab and then more money to let you live in a sober house and to attend further treatment. People are willing to babysit your kids so that you can go to meetings and they don't complain even if you need babysitting every night or a ride every night. You get interesting, dramatic people to spend time with at meetings and therapy sessions. You have people changing their behavior so that you don't feel uncomfortable. If people don't change their behavior around you, you can have a big ole hissy fit and claim they don't love you and they want you to relapse. You can behave VERY badly and have people forgive you very fast as long as you claim to have relapsed. You can even get criminal behavior either not reported if it involved loved one or you can get the courts to pay for rehab and not put you in jail. You can get that to happen one time in one jurisdiction and if you move around enough you can get this done more than once. I know addicts who have had theft, prostitution and even child neglect excused time and time again as long as they get 'treatment'. Often parents will not make you leave home or they will let you come back home so that you don't have so much pressure and you can go to more meetings and can embrace sober life. You don't have to work because your job now is 'recovery', so you get some or all expenses paid with very few requirements to fulfill. I can completely see why someone might do this. It wouldn't be that hard to do, in my opinion. Generally if you claim sub abuse people then look at your past behavior and attribute any/all bad, criminal or socially inappropriate behavior to your sub abuse problems. Just like if you take someone totally sane and send them to a psychiatric hospital, they usually end up with some diagnosis regardless of what symptoms they do or do not report. There have been more than a few researchers and journalists who have done this and gotten the same results. I don't really know how you should handle this. Follow your instincts as they are a parent's best guideline to handling kids, in my opinion. I do know that for a while my bro claimed to have been a victim of something esp horrid and later, during rehab, he confessed to making it all up. I wasn't surprised because the person he accused, who did this to other people, was in another part of the country when he claimed it happened. He pulled the name from a news article or three. This was one of the most devastating things he revealed to my parents. to have him lie on that scale about this issue completely threw my parents into pain, confusion and devastation. in my opinion it was harder to hear this than to hear his claim of abuse, at least for my parents. I think that few rehabs would admit this is a problem because they either care more about the insurance money than the patient or they think the claim is false. I know several people hwo work in rehabs that think that every person on the planet is addicted to something. At one point one of these people tried to convince my family that I was addicted to books. This person thought I needed inpatient treatment for 90 days to recover from this. I was working full time, parenting without major problems, active in my community, and this person had actually never even spoken to me. She 'knew' I was addicted because I usually had a book to read when I took the kids to the playground. Period. That was her entire argument. My mother laughed at her. Rehab IS big business here in the US. Sub abuse is a huge problem, esp as some rx medication use is now considered abuse in some areas even if it is prescribed and monitored by a doctor and the medications are taken exactly as prescribed. I am sure there are places that would cover up any instances of false addiction claims simply because it would hurt the bottom line. I also think there are MANY sub abuse treatment providers who would claim that statements like your daughter made are a symptom of denial and this would make them think her sub abuse problems were bigger and more serious than your daughter has claimed when she was claiming the sub abuse problems. I don't have a clue how to figure out how to identify and handle this issue reliably. [/QUOTE]
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