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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 560253" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I am glad some of what I said was helpful. As to why you gave electronics back, they are part of life and at some point he will have to learn to moderate his use of them so that he can function in the world. He is only 7 almost 8 now so you have time. Many people cannot understand why we do things like this, and often I have just told them to be happy they don't have to. Then I change the subject and if they want to go back to that one they get some fire because I can often find something to harp on them about that I would otherwise NEVER mention. For those who truly keep insisting on allowing 'just' this or that with whatever isn't healthy for your son, tell them fine as long as EVERY SINGLE TIME that you have a problem related to that item you can call them and they will immediately drop everything and come to handle whatever the issue is for however long it takes. </p><p></p><p>Trust me, NO ONE is going to offer that more than once. I had to use it with and aunt who couldn't seem to grasp that even though she is 10 yrs older than I am, and we have kids the same age, that I did not have to parent the way she did or obey her parenting whims. </p><p></p><p>As far as Occupational Therapist (OT), why is the Occupational Therapist (OT) talking with him about his feelings? That would be a psychologists' job, not hers. The Occupational Therapist (OT) is to help with motor and sensory issues. Ask her to teach you the brushing protocol to help him. It is designed to help retrain his brain and it has been PROVEN to create new pathways for the brain to handle sensory input. You MUST be taught by a professional, but then you do the therapy at home with him. The Occupational Therapist (OT) should also be figuring out what his sensory needs are and helping you find ways to incorporate them into his daily life and ways for him to self calm with them.</p><p></p><p>The books I mentioned describe this far better than I can. I would be very unhappy with someone who was not a psychologist who watned to discuss my child's feelings or dreams because they are not trained to do that therapeutically. As for him refusing to talk or being unable, that is textbook for anyone on the autism spectrum or with sensory issues. He is likely operating at a level of about a 4 to 5 yo, and that MUST be taken into account.</p><p></p><p>The beauty of sensory issues is that after you figure out what types of sensory input calm him, he can use these to calm himself whne he is anxious. My youngest chewed. shirts, pencils, most anything he could put into his mouth. He is 12 and this is the first school year that he isn't destroying every shirt he gets in under a month by chewing on the neck. It is pretty awesome, in my opinion. </p><p></p><p>I am sorry that I cannot give more helpful advice on where to get services, but our systems are very different than yours are. Oh, the Occupational Therapist (OT) might understand the brushing therapy if you call it the Wilbarger protocol. I am pretty sure that is the technical name for it, but here the Occupational Therapist (OT)'s call it brushing. You use a soft brush like a surgical scrub brush and brush the body in a certan pattern and follow that with gentle joint compressions. It helps the body better handle sensory stimulation, and it can be very amazing. It takes about 2 min to do this and at first you do it every couple of hours, then after a few weeks you space the therapy further apart. If you are not with him all day and can't have school do it, it takes longer but it will work if you do it when you are able to. While it is easy, and fairly quick to do this, you still MUST MUST MUST be trained by an Occupational Therapist (OT) because if you brush certain areas you can create real problems. Most kids don't object to the brushing and it can be done on bare skin or through clothing. I do know a little girl who hated it, and her mom wouldn't do it at home, but the school Occupational Therapist (OT) still did it with her and after a couple of weeks the little girl noticed it was helping and stopped having a fit when they did it. </p><p></p><p>Stick to your plan and cut the electronics out of his life for a while. Then they can be introduced slowly, and after several (many?) cycles of this, hopefully he will be able to moderate his activity and involvement as an adult. That is always the hope, isn't it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 560253, member: 1233"] I am glad some of what I said was helpful. As to why you gave electronics back, they are part of life and at some point he will have to learn to moderate his use of them so that he can function in the world. He is only 7 almost 8 now so you have time. Many people cannot understand why we do things like this, and often I have just told them to be happy they don't have to. Then I change the subject and if they want to go back to that one they get some fire because I can often find something to harp on them about that I would otherwise NEVER mention. For those who truly keep insisting on allowing 'just' this or that with whatever isn't healthy for your son, tell them fine as long as EVERY SINGLE TIME that you have a problem related to that item you can call them and they will immediately drop everything and come to handle whatever the issue is for however long it takes. Trust me, NO ONE is going to offer that more than once. I had to use it with and aunt who couldn't seem to grasp that even though she is 10 yrs older than I am, and we have kids the same age, that I did not have to parent the way she did or obey her parenting whims. As far as Occupational Therapist (OT), why is the Occupational Therapist (OT) talking with him about his feelings? That would be a psychologists' job, not hers. The Occupational Therapist (OT) is to help with motor and sensory issues. Ask her to teach you the brushing protocol to help him. It is designed to help retrain his brain and it has been PROVEN to create new pathways for the brain to handle sensory input. You MUST be taught by a professional, but then you do the therapy at home with him. The Occupational Therapist (OT) should also be figuring out what his sensory needs are and helping you find ways to incorporate them into his daily life and ways for him to self calm with them. The books I mentioned describe this far better than I can. I would be very unhappy with someone who was not a psychologist who watned to discuss my child's feelings or dreams because they are not trained to do that therapeutically. As for him refusing to talk or being unable, that is textbook for anyone on the autism spectrum or with sensory issues. He is likely operating at a level of about a 4 to 5 yo, and that MUST be taken into account. The beauty of sensory issues is that after you figure out what types of sensory input calm him, he can use these to calm himself whne he is anxious. My youngest chewed. shirts, pencils, most anything he could put into his mouth. He is 12 and this is the first school year that he isn't destroying every shirt he gets in under a month by chewing on the neck. It is pretty awesome, in my opinion. I am sorry that I cannot give more helpful advice on where to get services, but our systems are very different than yours are. Oh, the Occupational Therapist (OT) might understand the brushing therapy if you call it the Wilbarger protocol. I am pretty sure that is the technical name for it, but here the Occupational Therapist (OT)'s call it brushing. You use a soft brush like a surgical scrub brush and brush the body in a certan pattern and follow that with gentle joint compressions. It helps the body better handle sensory stimulation, and it can be very amazing. It takes about 2 min to do this and at first you do it every couple of hours, then after a few weeks you space the therapy further apart. If you are not with him all day and can't have school do it, it takes longer but it will work if you do it when you are able to. While it is easy, and fairly quick to do this, you still MUST MUST MUST be trained by an Occupational Therapist (OT) because if you brush certain areas you can create real problems. Most kids don't object to the brushing and it can be done on bare skin or through clothing. I do know a little girl who hated it, and her mom wouldn't do it at home, but the school Occupational Therapist (OT) still did it with her and after a couple of weeks the little girl noticed it was helping and stopped having a fit when they did it. Stick to your plan and cut the electronics out of his life for a while. Then they can be introduced slowly, and after several (many?) cycles of this, hopefully he will be able to moderate his activity and involvement as an adult. That is always the hope, isn't it? [/QUOTE]
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