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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 761399" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>I am scratching my head here. Even if we entertain the idea that he is "bs-ing," how does it make sense that he is all of a sudden out of the blue so strongly motivated to attack his parents. What was the trigger? Even if there was an external trigger, how would a "normal" person ever feel compelled to write let alone think of such irrational things. Your husband's way of thinking about this while it may reassure him, just is not logical, to my way of thinking.</p><p></p><p>As far as a restraining order, I can see how this may be one part of a solution. But if he is truly psychotic do you think that, if he has violent fantasies, that he will necessarily be stopped by this? It is not that I am trying to frighten you, I am not. I am saying that I think the number one thing that will help you, the family and your son is that he receive treatment. Even if he's not 5150'd right off the bat it establishes a paper trail and he soon will be. But honestly, I would 5150 him now if I were a psychiatrist.</p><p></p><p>Not only is he totally out of control. He's making violent and specific threats against specific people, that seem in his mind to be imminent.</p><p></p><p>Even though your husband may be reticent about 5150-ing him, what about the very large potential that he be arrested. If one puts psychosis out of the equation there is a very large chance what he is writing could be construed to be what are called "terrorist threats" at least in my state. I am not an attorney but I've seen people given state prison terms for less.</p><p></p><p>There are two separate although related issues. The welfare of you and your family. The welfare of your son. I think being realistic about your son's condition is paramount. I am so very sorry this is happening. It is so scary and concerning. I say that with all of my heart.</p><p></p><p>Would your husband be willing to post and read? There are many, many years of experience here on this forum. All of us have children who have had similar problems and we've lived through variations of what you are living through. Some people here are cops, attorneys, psychologists, etc. who in their professional lives have had to deal with these same kinds of issues as well. What I am saying is I think that dialog helps. When we're suffering alone in our families it's a circular feedback loop. We just dissolve in puddles. Maybe your husband will come here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 761399, member: 18958"] I am scratching my head here. Even if we entertain the idea that he is "bs-ing," how does it make sense that he is all of a sudden out of the blue so strongly motivated to attack his parents. What was the trigger? Even if there was an external trigger, how would a "normal" person ever feel compelled to write let alone think of such irrational things. Your husband's way of thinking about this while it may reassure him, just is not logical, to my way of thinking. As far as a restraining order, I can see how this may be one part of a solution. But if he is truly psychotic do you think that, if he has violent fantasies, that he will necessarily be stopped by this? It is not that I am trying to frighten you, I am not. I am saying that I think the number one thing that will help you, the family and your son is that he receive treatment. Even if he's not 5150'd right off the bat it establishes a paper trail and he soon will be. But honestly, I would 5150 him now if I were a psychiatrist. Not only is he totally out of control. He's making violent and specific threats against specific people, that seem in his mind to be imminent. Even though your husband may be reticent about 5150-ing him, what about the very large potential that he be arrested. If one puts psychosis out of the equation there is a very large chance what he is writing could be construed to be what are called "terrorist threats" at least in my state. I am not an attorney but I've seen people given state prison terms for less. There are two separate although related issues. The welfare of you and your family. The welfare of your son. I think being realistic about your son's condition is paramount. I am so very sorry this is happening. It is so scary and concerning. I say that with all of my heart. Would your husband be willing to post and read? There are many, many years of experience here on this forum. All of us have children who have had similar problems and we've lived through variations of what you are living through. Some people here are cops, attorneys, psychologists, etc. who in their professional lives have had to deal with these same kinds of issues as well. What I am saying is I think that dialog helps. When we're suffering alone in our families it's a circular feedback loop. We just dissolve in puddles. Maybe your husband will come here? [/QUOTE]
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