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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 60728" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I would talk to her about the voices, try and get some understanding on it since the doctor doesn't seem interested. if it's upsetting her, then it needs to be sorted with her.</p><p></p><p>It COULD be auditory hallucinations, or it could be simply her trying to get a handle on her own thought processes. There were things I tried to talk about with my family, when I was a kid, but I stopped when people started saying I was weird, or said they didn't understand. People being dismissive was not good; but people who were at first dismissive and then treated my insistence on answers as something possibly of concern if I was going to keep talking about it - I was smart enough to shut up.</p><p>Now I understand what I was trying to describe - it was simply a more vivid way of visualising number sequences. I've heard about it since, it's rare but not pathogenic. It usually is linked to mathematical ability, and now I understand where it came from I can trace its origins in the steps I took as I learned about numbers, back when I was very young. A bit of support and understanding would have been nice, instead of being treated as a freak by my siblings. But they don't have this, so they don't understand.</p><p></p><p>It could be something innocent that someone has scared her with, by telling her it's not normal.</p><p>We have an Aussie author/Aspie, Wendy Lawson, who spent a few years in a locked psychiatric ward being treated for schizophrenia, because when a psychiatrist asked her, "Do you hear voices?" Wendy replied, "Of course I do!"</p><p></p><p>And she's right. We don't SEE voices, do we? We hear them. But when you're asking an Aspie, or anyone with Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), you need to be careful about what you ask and careful how you interpret the answer.</p><p></p><p>Basically, is the voice she hears saying anything that goes against her own grain? Is it her, or does it feel like someone else's voice, imposed? Can she describe the voice? Because generally when you're talking about your own inner voice, you can't describe it.</p><p>Has she heard the voice anywhere else, such as outside her head? Because I know difficult child 3 'hears' voices in his head - they're the soundtrack of movies he's watched, playing out like a tape recording in his head. Sometimes the tape recording will zip forward to a point that gives him a clue of something to say, as in a crisis. And with an adrenalin push, such as just when she's about to blow her stack, it could be more apparent. It seems to work that way with difficult child 3 - when stressed he often can quote (appropriately) from a film or computer game. But if someone told him this was bad, it would really make him anxious every time his brain did this.</p><p></p><p>A really vivid imagination, such as I had when a child, can be a handicap if it's misunderstood. I had night terrors and my parents believed that if they pandered to the problem it would get worse. And now I'm older and have taken up writing, I know where those night terrors came from - it's having a mind that can make sudden leaps and conjectures, almost subconsciously, and twist them into something different. It helps as a writer, but it's a darned nuisance when you need to be pragmatic. I can look at a face on the bus and visualise a murderer in my next story. Now I'm a rational adult in the light of day, I know this is my own imagination. As a young child, in the half-sleep of the small hours, I knew no such thing and fantasy & reality would blur as shadows rearranged themselves into strange creatures ready to attack.</p><p>There was nothing wrong with me mentally that a night-light wouldn't have helped, or a journal wouldn't have cured. An overtired, frightened brain makes even more nightmares as it tries to catalogue the day's entries. And, of course, the more this happens the worse the problem can get.</p><p></p><p>I hope it's nothing more than this, but you need to find out more from her. She's frightened, so hopefully she'll talk to you about it. Find out why it scares her - does she feel the voices are removing her control? In which case, I would really worry for her. But if she is recognising that something doesn't feel right, she's a smart kid and a sensible one, to talk to you about it.</p><p></p><p>Someone with more experience in this will undoubtedly put their oar in - all opinions here come from a wide range of experiences. I hope somewhere you can find a clue to help your daughter.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 60728, member: 1991"] I would talk to her about the voices, try and get some understanding on it since the doctor doesn't seem interested. if it's upsetting her, then it needs to be sorted with her. It COULD be auditory hallucinations, or it could be simply her trying to get a handle on her own thought processes. There were things I tried to talk about with my family, when I was a kid, but I stopped when people started saying I was weird, or said they didn't understand. People being dismissive was not good; but people who were at first dismissive and then treated my insistence on answers as something possibly of concern if I was going to keep talking about it - I was smart enough to shut up. Now I understand what I was trying to describe - it was simply a more vivid way of visualising number sequences. I've heard about it since, it's rare but not pathogenic. It usually is linked to mathematical ability, and now I understand where it came from I can trace its origins in the steps I took as I learned about numbers, back when I was very young. A bit of support and understanding would have been nice, instead of being treated as a freak by my siblings. But they don't have this, so they don't understand. It could be something innocent that someone has scared her with, by telling her it's not normal. We have an Aussie author/Aspie, Wendy Lawson, who spent a few years in a locked psychiatric ward being treated for schizophrenia, because when a psychiatrist asked her, "Do you hear voices?" Wendy replied, "Of course I do!" And she's right. We don't SEE voices, do we? We hear them. But when you're asking an Aspie, or anyone with Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), you need to be careful about what you ask and careful how you interpret the answer. Basically, is the voice she hears saying anything that goes against her own grain? Is it her, or does it feel like someone else's voice, imposed? Can she describe the voice? Because generally when you're talking about your own inner voice, you can't describe it. Has she heard the voice anywhere else, such as outside her head? Because I know difficult child 3 'hears' voices in his head - they're the soundtrack of movies he's watched, playing out like a tape recording in his head. Sometimes the tape recording will zip forward to a point that gives him a clue of something to say, as in a crisis. And with an adrenalin push, such as just when she's about to blow her stack, it could be more apparent. It seems to work that way with difficult child 3 - when stressed he often can quote (appropriately) from a film or computer game. But if someone told him this was bad, it would really make him anxious every time his brain did this. A really vivid imagination, such as I had when a child, can be a handicap if it's misunderstood. I had night terrors and my parents believed that if they pandered to the problem it would get worse. And now I'm older and have taken up writing, I know where those night terrors came from - it's having a mind that can make sudden leaps and conjectures, almost subconsciously, and twist them into something different. It helps as a writer, but it's a darned nuisance when you need to be pragmatic. I can look at a face on the bus and visualise a murderer in my next story. Now I'm a rational adult in the light of day, I know this is my own imagination. As a young child, in the half-sleep of the small hours, I knew no such thing and fantasy & reality would blur as shadows rearranged themselves into strange creatures ready to attack. There was nothing wrong with me mentally that a night-light wouldn't have helped, or a journal wouldn't have cured. An overtired, frightened brain makes even more nightmares as it tries to catalogue the day's entries. And, of course, the more this happens the worse the problem can get. I hope it's nothing more than this, but you need to find out more from her. She's frightened, so hopefully she'll talk to you about it. Find out why it scares her - does she feel the voices are removing her control? In which case, I would really worry for her. But if she is recognising that something doesn't feel right, she's a smart kid and a sensible one, to talk to you about it. Someone with more experience in this will undoubtedly put their oar in - all opinions here come from a wide range of experiences. I hope somewhere you can find a clue to help your daughter. Marg [/QUOTE]
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