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<blockquote data-quote="Nancy" data-source="post: 477015" data-attributes="member: 59"><p>Actually Janet there was a man in difficult child's outpatient program who needed surgery on his foot and the doctors were not going to put him to sleep because of his addiction. He told the group they were also going to adjust the pain medications they normally give. Of course in very serious cases they would have to use some medications they would prefer not to, but it doesn't help to just monitor the patient. The problem isn't during surgery, it's what it does to the person's brain in triggering the cravings and urges and in some cases the withdrawal symptoms that's the problem.</p><p></p><p>Did you see the episode of Private Practice where the dcotor who is an alcoholic needed stitches and she would not let them give her even a local?</p><p></p><p>The body does not know the difference between taking needed pain medication and abusing drugs</p><p></p><p>Cough syrup is one of the most troublesome substances to addicts.</p><p></p><p>From <a href="http://www.tgorski.com/gorski_articles/prescription_drugs_&_relapse.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tgorski.com/gorski_articles/prescription_drugs_&_relapse.htm</a></p><p></p><p>"recognize that any use of mood altering drugs may reactivate craving, impair your judgment and impulse control, and cause difficulty in thinking clearly and managing emotions. Jerry, a recovering alcoholic, was in a serious car accident that mangled his legs. The severe pain required narcotic pain killers and the muscular and skeletal damage required the use of muscle relaxants. Even though these medications were given in minimal therapeutic doses and discontinued as soon as possible Jerry experienced withdrawal, agitation, and confusion when the medication was stopped. He wasn't prepared for this, and when the cravings hit he was recuperating alone at home and had lost regular contact with his Twelve Step Group and counselor."</p><p></p><p>It didn't matter that the doctor monitored the use of the drugs, the addict patient still suffers the result of such medications.</p><p></p><p>Narcotic pain medications are absolutely a problem for addicts. They can and will have negative consequences whether the addict abuses them or not.</p><p></p><p>Think of it in terms of alcohol. If alcohol was the pain medication of choice no one would think of offering an alcoholic a fifth after surgery. It wouldn't matter whether the patient was monitored or not. The body doesn't know it is being monitored. The body craves the alcohol. The alcoholic will go straight from the hospital to the nearest bar. An acoholic cannot have just one drink, for whatever reason. An addict cannot have just one mood altering or addictive drug. There may be life threatening times when it is necessary but that isn't the norm. There are alternatives and safer drugs but unless you have a doctor well versed in addiction you have to know yourself what you can and cannot take and be prepared for the effects.</p><p></p><p>You are very lucky that you don't have problems withdrawing from benzos. There were several patients in difficult child's treatment center detoxing from benzos and the counselor said they are harder to come off than most other drugs. One young lady in particular was having an awful time detoxing and her withdrawal symptoms could go on for years she was told.</p><p></p><p>Nancy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nancy, post: 477015, member: 59"] Actually Janet there was a man in difficult child's outpatient program who needed surgery on his foot and the doctors were not going to put him to sleep because of his addiction. He told the group they were also going to adjust the pain medications they normally give. Of course in very serious cases they would have to use some medications they would prefer not to, but it doesn't help to just monitor the patient. The problem isn't during surgery, it's what it does to the person's brain in triggering the cravings and urges and in some cases the withdrawal symptoms that's the problem. Did you see the episode of Private Practice where the dcotor who is an alcoholic needed stitches and she would not let them give her even a local? The body does not know the difference between taking needed pain medication and abusing drugs Cough syrup is one of the most troublesome substances to addicts. From [url]http://www.tgorski.com/gorski_articles/prescription_drugs_&_relapse.htm[/url] "recognize that any use of mood altering drugs may reactivate craving, impair your judgment and impulse control, and cause difficulty in thinking clearly and managing emotions. Jerry, a recovering alcoholic, was in a serious car accident that mangled his legs. The severe pain required narcotic pain killers and the muscular and skeletal damage required the use of muscle relaxants. Even though these medications were given in minimal therapeutic doses and discontinued as soon as possible Jerry experienced withdrawal, agitation, and confusion when the medication was stopped. He wasn't prepared for this, and when the cravings hit he was recuperating alone at home and had lost regular contact with his Twelve Step Group and counselor." It didn't matter that the doctor monitored the use of the drugs, the addict patient still suffers the result of such medications. Narcotic pain medications are absolutely a problem for addicts. They can and will have negative consequences whether the addict abuses them or not. Think of it in terms of alcohol. If alcohol was the pain medication of choice no one would think of offering an alcoholic a fifth after surgery. It wouldn't matter whether the patient was monitored or not. The body doesn't know it is being monitored. The body craves the alcohol. The alcoholic will go straight from the hospital to the nearest bar. An acoholic cannot have just one drink, for whatever reason. An addict cannot have just one mood altering or addictive drug. There may be life threatening times when it is necessary but that isn't the norm. There are alternatives and safer drugs but unless you have a doctor well versed in addiction you have to know yourself what you can and cannot take and be prepared for the effects. You are very lucky that you don't have problems withdrawing from benzos. There were several patients in difficult child's treatment center detoxing from benzos and the counselor said they are harder to come off than most other drugs. One young lady in particular was having an awful time detoxing and her withdrawal symptoms could go on for years she was told. Nancy [/QUOTE]
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