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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 532643" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>The idea of taking difficult child to work was not so much to give you a break but to let husband see firsthand how tough it is to get a difficult child to behave when they don't want to. it is one of the few things i found effectively got my husband to be involved. </p><p></p><p>As for the psychiatrist handing out diagnosis's with-o any real evaluation, in my opinion that isn't unusual. we found a developmental pediatrician who did a full evaluation with the other members of his practice - all types of therapists and a psychometrist (psychologist trained in testing methods and tools and evaluating the results) and they ALL evaluation'ed Wiz and then met and discussed their results to find a diagnosis that really worked for him. A neuropsychologist does something similar and these evaluations take several appts and total 8-12 hours if they are really good. Of course some of the testing cannot be done as effectively until a child is older, but there is enough to give a decent idea of what is going on with an 8yo. We actually got the first Asperger's diagnosis from a psychiatrist after a 45 min appointment. but he shows MANY classic signs of Asperger's, so it wasn't that hard. He truly shows few signs of bipolar as he is NEVER manic, but has many signs of depression. Wiz did not start turning himself around until he was on <strong>3</strong> antidepressants - for different things but all 3 medications are antidepressants as well. Those were what enabled him to truly turn things around. But if he was bipolar they would have sent him over the edge into major mood spiraling. That is why I pushed every doctor who tried to give him teh bipolar diagnosis - he truly NEVER fit the symptoms of bipolar no matter what a doctor said. It would be rather like saying that I am male - just not true. </p><p></p><p>I have NO idea why docs don't seem to want to rx mood stabs when they diagnosis bipolar. Most here want to rx lexapro or effexor and both are highly likely to make a bipolar person go manic in a major way. None would give me ANY real answer other than to say that I seemed 'resistant' to accepting the bipolar diagnosis. Which is nonsense - I didn't care WhAT they called him as long as they helped. But you cannot give the name and then not give the treatment that is PROVEN to help - not if I know about it. I am resistant to THAT and most of the psychiatrists simply didn't care, near as I could tell. They seemed to want me to shut up and say 'OK dr. God Sir, anything you want" and that just is NOT me. My husband laughed at one of them when he got all insulted because I asked "too many questions". husband told him to try being married to me if he thought i asked too many questions. I just laughed with husband and AT the psychiatrist because truly, he was an absolute idiot. He tried to convince us that asperger's and bipolar looked exactly alike, had exactly the same symptoms and only through 'instinct' could you tell the difference. husband thought I would start rolling on the floor because I was laughing at him so hard. It was the stupidest thing I had ever heard of. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, while you are gettng books, look for What Your Explosive Child Is Trying to Tell You by Doug Riley. It is awesome and truly helps you figure out the WHY behind the explosions. </p><p></p><p>I am very glad your husband is taking a more active role. that is awesome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 532643, member: 1233"] The idea of taking difficult child to work was not so much to give you a break but to let husband see firsthand how tough it is to get a difficult child to behave when they don't want to. it is one of the few things i found effectively got my husband to be involved. As for the psychiatrist handing out diagnosis's with-o any real evaluation, in my opinion that isn't unusual. we found a developmental pediatrician who did a full evaluation with the other members of his practice - all types of therapists and a psychometrist (psychologist trained in testing methods and tools and evaluating the results) and they ALL evaluation'ed Wiz and then met and discussed their results to find a diagnosis that really worked for him. A neuropsychologist does something similar and these evaluations take several appts and total 8-12 hours if they are really good. Of course some of the testing cannot be done as effectively until a child is older, but there is enough to give a decent idea of what is going on with an 8yo. We actually got the first Asperger's diagnosis from a psychiatrist after a 45 min appointment. but he shows MANY classic signs of Asperger's, so it wasn't that hard. He truly shows few signs of bipolar as he is NEVER manic, but has many signs of depression. Wiz did not start turning himself around until he was on [B]3[/B] antidepressants - for different things but all 3 medications are antidepressants as well. Those were what enabled him to truly turn things around. But if he was bipolar they would have sent him over the edge into major mood spiraling. That is why I pushed every doctor who tried to give him teh bipolar diagnosis - he truly NEVER fit the symptoms of bipolar no matter what a doctor said. It would be rather like saying that I am male - just not true. I have NO idea why docs don't seem to want to rx mood stabs when they diagnosis bipolar. Most here want to rx lexapro or effexor and both are highly likely to make a bipolar person go manic in a major way. None would give me ANY real answer other than to say that I seemed 'resistant' to accepting the bipolar diagnosis. Which is nonsense - I didn't care WhAT they called him as long as they helped. But you cannot give the name and then not give the treatment that is PROVEN to help - not if I know about it. I am resistant to THAT and most of the psychiatrists simply didn't care, near as I could tell. They seemed to want me to shut up and say 'OK dr. God Sir, anything you want" and that just is NOT me. My husband laughed at one of them when he got all insulted because I asked "too many questions". husband told him to try being married to me if he thought i asked too many questions. I just laughed with husband and AT the psychiatrist because truly, he was an absolute idiot. He tried to convince us that asperger's and bipolar looked exactly alike, had exactly the same symptoms and only through 'instinct' could you tell the difference. husband thought I would start rolling on the floor because I was laughing at him so hard. It was the stupidest thing I had ever heard of. Anyway, while you are gettng books, look for What Your Explosive Child Is Trying to Tell You by Doug Riley. It is awesome and truly helps you figure out the WHY behind the explosions. I am very glad your husband is taking a more active role. that is awesome. [/QUOTE]
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