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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 253990" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>You're asking them to put in place a process that will put them to some trouble and eventually a fair bit of paperwork as well as someone somewhere having to spend money. even if it's not thwir mooney, there is still some kudos to coming in under budget.</p><p></p><p>A problem we have in our area (Australia) is the person who has the responsibility to ensure that kids are given adequate and appropriate support, is also the person who gets some sort of reward (in terms of professional kudos) for not spending the money over budget.</p><p></p><p>That's why so often when kids get assessed by school counsellors, they average out the test results so the exteme high scores (indicating splinter skills and giftedness) and low scores (indicating learning problems) sipy disappear into a semblance of 'normality' so thye can say, "Well, the child's results aren't too bad, considering the IQis only average."</p><p>It means TWO programs can get dropped - no need for extension, no need for special support. So a kid gets doubly frustrated, and falls through the cracks.</p><p></p><p>It's just one more example of how a school system can try to be obstructive, without it being that much skin off their noses to get off their collective rear ends and do something to help the child.</p><p></p><p>Please note - a good school system will not be obstructive, but will instead do their best to help you. But where you have one school not helping well, you can often find the rot has set in at a higher level and this affects a number of schools in the area. I've jsut spent the day at a school which bends over backwards to help kids with problems. But we also spent a number of years at a school which was NOT helpful, but with a district office which held the entire region captive to lack of support unless you really fought hard for it by kicking every rear end that got in the way, AND screaming to those higher up the ladder. Their reward for being obstructive - promotion.</p><p></p><p>Tragic.</p><p></p><p>Go get 'em.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 253990, member: 1991"] You're asking them to put in place a process that will put them to some trouble and eventually a fair bit of paperwork as well as someone somewhere having to spend money. even if it's not thwir mooney, there is still some kudos to coming in under budget. A problem we have in our area (Australia) is the person who has the responsibility to ensure that kids are given adequate and appropriate support, is also the person who gets some sort of reward (in terms of professional kudos) for not spending the money over budget. That's why so often when kids get assessed by school counsellors, they average out the test results so the exteme high scores (indicating splinter skills and giftedness) and low scores (indicating learning problems) sipy disappear into a semblance of 'normality' so thye can say, "Well, the child's results aren't too bad, considering the IQis only average." It means TWO programs can get dropped - no need for extension, no need for special support. So a kid gets doubly frustrated, and falls through the cracks. It's just one more example of how a school system can try to be obstructive, without it being that much skin off their noses to get off their collective rear ends and do something to help the child. Please note - a good school system will not be obstructive, but will instead do their best to help you. But where you have one school not helping well, you can often find the rot has set in at a higher level and this affects a number of schools in the area. I've jsut spent the day at a school which bends over backwards to help kids with problems. But we also spent a number of years at a school which was NOT helpful, but with a district office which held the entire region captive to lack of support unless you really fought hard for it by kicking every rear end that got in the way, AND screaming to those higher up the ladder. Their reward for being obstructive - promotion. Tragic. Go get 'em. Marg [/QUOTE]
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